LunarLights58 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, MinYoongi said: "404 not found" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, LunarLights58 said: http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/723472main_glowing_edge_0.jpg If anyone sees these things forming, we are in for a doozy. They are the precursors to large flares and CMEs. Nice looking 404 ..... tad late on my message 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, LunarLights58 said: and why is that? that does not sound too scientifically backed.. those are post flare arcades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarLights58 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, MinYoongi said: and why is that? that does not sound too scientifically backed.. those are post flare arcades https://www.nasa.gov/image-article/flux-ropes-sun/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishaxolotl Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said: Flare class doesn't go hand in hand with CME impacts. Yeah but the X5 CME seemed really strong and not something we want hitting us directly Edited January 4 by Fishaxolotl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarLights58 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 They're flux ropes and they are the reason for the Sun's largest CMEs. https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/11180 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishaxolotl Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, LunarLights58 said: They're flux ropes and they are the reason for the Sun's largest CMEs. This provides a lot of context for that crazy flare we had on the 31st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, LunarLights58 said: They're flux ropes and they are the reason for the Sun's largest CMEs. https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/11180 as far as im concerned flux ropes are always responsible for flares/cmes atleast theyre not something spectaculary rare always tied to strong events. i could be wrong but thats what i believed up until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 The event doesn't seem to be too eruptive so far. It wouldn't rule out a higher altitude CME release though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishaxolotl Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 2 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said: The event doesn't seem to be too eruptive so far. It wouldn't rule out a higher altitude CME release though. Higher altitude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 7 minutes ago, Fishaxolotl said: Yeah but the X5 CME seemed really strong and not something we want hitting us directly We could easily take the hit. Going out on a limb, it may have been slightly slower than the two 2003 Halloween CMEs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay-B Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, Fishaxolotl said: Yeah but the X5 CME seemed really strong and not something we want hitting us directly I sure do! I'm in ohio so I need a kp7+ to see anything. I think the last time there was a sighting here was 2003 halloween and I missed it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Just now, Fishaxolotl said: Higher altitude? Some CMEs you see release near the surface in the solar imagery and some are higher above where we can't see them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 minute ago, Jesterface23 said: Some CMEs you see release near the surface in the solar imagery and some are higher above where we can't see them. learning something new from you every day 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceWeather5464 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 14 minutes ago, LunarLights58 said: It's easy to see that when the sunspot is over the limb, Not so much when it's facing us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philalethes Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, Fishaxolotl said: Yeah but the X5 CME seemed really strong and not something we want hitting us directly Well, that's definitely not the prevailing sentiment here, since most of us would love for nothing more than to get a solid hit from a powerful CME. 6 minutes ago, LunarLights58 said: They're flux ropes and they are the reason for the Sun's largest CMEs. https://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/11180 Flux ropes can be seen pretty much all over the surface, at least during maximum. They're called coronal loops when smoother and closer to the surface, and prominences/filaments when higher up in the corona and not as smooth; and when they've been launched and gone interplanetary they're sometimes referred to as magnetic clouds, although colloquially they're just called flux ropes in that context. Well, I guess the smaller coronal loops are actually just flux tubes since they're not so twisty, but hopefully you get the gist. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 hey @Philalethes, mozy said the region is breaking up/apart or something. like the penumbra are breaking away from each other, whats your opinion? im not too sure, been watching it for the last couple hours. i dont wanna make false assumptions because we just got a long flare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Not to confuse them, it looks like there are some limb CMEs in the coronagraph imagery currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philalethes Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 3 minutes ago, MinYoongi said: hey @Philalethes, mozy said the region is breaking up/apart or something. like the penumbra are breaking away from each other, whats your opinion? im not too sure, been watching it for the last couple hours. i dont wanna make false assumptions because we just got a long flare. It doesn't look great. Keeps decaying and breaking apart, especially now with the long flare releasing so much energy. There's still some complexity there though, so I'm still guessing we might see some more flares before it dies, but unless it starts develops more complexity I don't think we'll see anything eruptive anytime soon. I guess this is over for now though, off to play the waiting game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 18 minutes ago, Philalethes said: It doesn't look great. Keeps decaying and breaking apart, Hm..I thought the blue ( for ducks sake i cant tell anymore whats positive and whats negative!! ) was gaining spots/getting bigger. but it seems like its going away from the more intense red parts, and they seem to be weakening too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarLights58 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 8 minutes ago, MinYoongi said: Hm..I thought the blue ( for ducks sake i cant tell anymore whats positive and whats negative!! ) was gaining spots/getting bigger. but it seems like its going away from the more intense red parts, and they seem to be weakening too. Blue is positive and red is negative The red color indicates sunspots or areas with a negative polarity and the blue color indicates areas with positive polarity sunspots. https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/help/the-magnetic-classification-of-sunspots.html 3 hours ago, MinYoongi said: thats very helpful. thank you! 55 minutes ago, MinYoongi said: Hm..I thought the blue ( for ducks sake i cant tell anymore whats positive and whats negative!! ) was gaining spots/getting bigger. but it seems like its going away from the more intense red parts, and they seem to be weakening too. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamateur 1953 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jay-B said: I sure do! I'm in ohio so I need a kp7+ to see anything. I think the last time there was a sighting here was 2003 halloween and I missed it I slept through it!!! Only after telephoning my old friends and telling them that they might see something, being as they were over a mountain pass and away from Seattle glow. It woke them up it was soooo bright at our latitude. Kp8 for me or I’m stayin home this cycle @Jay-Bhahaha!! Btw check out the Halloween Storms video available here ifya haven’t yet. Awesome Edited January 4 by hamateur 1953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aten Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 5 hours ago, LunarLights58 said: What do you think about SWPC/NOAA saying there are 175 >X1's and 8 >X10's per solar cycle? You can have cycles with no X10's, but it is also possible for a single sunspot group to produce several X10 flares. In June 1991 NOAA 6659 fired off six X10+ flares over 15 days. I hope we get a spot like that this cycle 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishaxolotl Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Hmm, 3536 looks a bit stronger on the latest imagery I think though it's still designated as beta gamma with a smaller size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Fishaxolotl said: Hmm, 3536 looks a bit stronger on the latest imagery I think though it's still designated as beta gamma with a smaller size I compared with my imagery from pre-sleep and to me it looks weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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