3gMike Posted June 9, 2021 Share Posted June 9, 2021 Hi Patrick, Thanks for the updated predictions. It is going to be extremely difficult to verify your theory, since if a spot is generated on the rear side then it may not appear until 13 or 14 days later. Spot 2830 first appeared on the front side at S26W60 on Jun 6th but your data does not indicate any Triple Line that would have generated a sunspot at that time. Spotless plage 2831 has been recorded today at N24W0. Would you claim that as a link to one of the Triple Line ups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 Sunspot activity will increase again in a few days because we have alignments with Mercury and Venus August 3 (03:00) – 10 (23:45), 2021 Triple Line Up Uranus – Ceres – Venus August 8 (08:45) – 11 (16:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Venus - Earth – Neptune August 8 (14:30) – 14 (19:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Vesta – Mercury - Ceres August 10 (01:30) – 12 (01:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Jupiter - Earth – Mercury August 10 (18:15) – 13 (17:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Venus - Earth – Pallas August 10 (19:30) – 14 (02:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Mercury - Pallas August 15 (04:45) – 21 (23:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Uranus – Ceres – Mercury August 18 (04:30) – 20 (03:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Mercury - Earth August 18 (14:15) – 20 (23:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury – Venus – Juno August 19 (21:15) – 29 (08:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Neptune – Pallas - Mercury August 23 (19:00) – 26 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Neptune August 24 (04:45) – 26 (11:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Pallas August 24 (21:30) – 28 (05:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Chiron - Earth – Venus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gMike Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 10 hours ago, Patrick Geryl said: Sunspot activity will increase again in a few days because we have alignments with Mercury and Venus Patrick, Please help us understand your theory. You have listed here 13 triple line-ups during August. I assume that not all line-ups will influence sun spot generation in the same way. Can you give a rating (using whatever scale suits you) for each line-up based on the probability of it leading to a sunspot region being generated? Until you do that we have no way of assessing the validity of your claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 9 uren geleden, 3gMike zei: Patrick, Please help us understand your theory. You have listed here 13 triple line-ups during August. I assume that not all line-ups will influence sun spot generation in the same way. Can you give a rating (using whatever scale suits you) for each line-up based on the probability of it leading to a sunspot region being generated? Until you do that we have no way of assessing the validity of your claims. This is the basics. 1. No Triples with Mercury or Venus = low sunspot activity 2. LONG Triples with Mercury or Venus = high sunspot activity Remember the proton flares on the Farside in July? Induced by a LONG Triple (22 days) with Mercury: June 20 (23:00) – July 12 (00:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Uranus – Ceres – Mercury June 22 (08:45) – 25 (14:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Pluto – Earth – Venus June 24 (08:45) - 27 (15:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Mercury - Jupiter This one was important because it was a long one with Ceres (also in the long Triple with Mercury) June 24 (15:45) – July 29 (00:45), 2021 Triple Line Up Pluto – Jupiter - Ceres June 25 (18:00) – 27 (08:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Venus – Mercury - Jupiter June 25 (18:30) – July 1 (11:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Venus - Jupiter June 26 (08:15) – 27 (19:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Venus - Mercury June 28 (08:45) – July 3 (09:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Chiron – Mercury - Vesta July 2 (22:30) – 4 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Venus – Mercury - Pallas July 5 (12:45)- 8 (16:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Saturn – Earth –Venus July 7 (02:15) – 8 (15:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Venus – Mercury - Neptune July 8 (00:30) – 10 (17:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Mercury - Pallas July 12 (02:45)- 15 (01:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Venus - Earth July 13 (06:00)- 18 (21:45), 2021 Triple Line Up Ceres – Venus - Vesta July 14 (00:15) – 15 (10:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Venus – Mercury - Chiron There were other Triples that are important, but that would take pages to explain. Conclusion: Higher sunspot activity in August, but not spectacular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gMike Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Patrick Geryl said: Conclusion: Higher sunspot activity in August, but not spectacular Thanks for the explanation. So, if I understand you correctly, activity most likely higher in the period 19th to 29th based on the long line up with Neptune-Pallas - Mercury, and reinforced by August 23 (19:00) – 26 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Neptune August 24 (04:45) – 26 (11:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Pallas August 24 (21:30) – 28 (05:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Chiron - Earth – Venus in the latter part of that period. Does inclusion of both Mercury and Venus from the 24th make the effect stronger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 On 8/6/2021 at 1:55 AM, Patrick Geryl said: Sunspot activity will increase again in a few days because we have alignments with Mercury and Venus No, keep your magic 8 ball predictions. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Halls Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Patrick - there can be no doubt you have put a lot of hard work into your theories - though sadly I remain sceptical of your predictions. Am I to understand (and I apologise if I have missed something previously) that your predictions are based upon the effect of alignments of other solar system bodies on the Sun? What is the effect - mass or gravity of these bodies? Despite my sceptisicsm I find your posts fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/6/2021 at 1:55 AM, Patrick Geryl said: Sunspot activity will increase again in a few days because we have alignments with Mercury and Venus August 3 (03:00) – 10 (23:45), 2021 Triple Line Up Uranus – Ceres – Venus August 8 (08:45) – 11 (16:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Venus - Earth – Neptune August 8 (14:30) – 14 (19:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Vesta – Mercury - Ceres August 10 (01:30) – 12 (01:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Jupiter - Earth – Mercury August 10 (18:15) – 13 (17:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Venus - Earth – Pallas August 10 (19:30) – 14 (02:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Mercury - Pallas August 15 (04:45) – 21 (23:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Uranus – Ceres – Mercury August 18 (04:30) – 20 (03:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mars – Mercury - Earth August 18 (14:15) – 20 (23:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury – Venus – Juno August 19 (21:15) – 29 (08:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Neptune – Pallas - Mercury August 23 (19:00) – 26 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Neptune August 24 (04:45) – 26 (11:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Pallas August 24 (21:30) – 28 (05:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Chiron - Earth – Venus We are at the 1/2 way through these dates. I haven't seen "increased sunspot activity" yet. Again your predictions are vague, how many sunspots? How many sunspots were you predicting? Are you off by 40%, 30%? Only 1/2 more dates to go. I am happy to acknowledge your predictions, but I'm not sure exactly what your predictions are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 Op 7/8/2021 om 10:36, 3gMike zei: Thanks for the explanation. So, if I understand you correctly, activity most likely higher in the period 19th to 29th based on the long line up with Neptune-Pallas - Mercury, and reinforced by August 23 (19:00) – 26 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Neptune August 24 (04:45) – 26 (11:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Pallas August 24 (21:30) – 28 (05:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Chiron - Earth – Venus in the latter part of that period. Does inclusion of both Mercury and Venus from the 24th make the effect stronger? You nailed it! That is the period with the highest activity. The others can learn something from you… Currently sunspots are small because no long alignments with Mercury or Venus. Hope it will be on this side of the Sun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Addling that 19th to 29th time range would have been wonderful in the first place unless you learned something from him as well. Why include the weak region days as well or not point it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Patrick Geryl said: You nailed it! That is the period with the highest activity. The others can learn something from you… Currently sunspots are small because no long alignments with Mercury or Venus. Hope it will be on this side of the Sun! Well lets see what happens during the 19th-29th. If there is nothing or low activity, would you revisit your Merc/Venus alignment prediction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gMike Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Patrick Geryl said: You nailed it! That is the period with the highest activity. The others can learn something from you… Currently sunspots are small because no long alignments with Mercury or Venus. Hope it will be on this side of the Sun! O.K., so I am perhaps beginning to understand a little bit more about your theory, but I still have plenty of questions ! For example, you have acknowledged elsewhere that sunspot generation is dependent upon the 10.7cm flux. Are you able to give us an indication of the degree of influence exerted by the planetary alignments on this flux? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, 3gMike said: sunspot generation is dependent upon the 10.7cm flux. The causation is actually reverse. ARs cause radio emissions and the 10.7 cm band (2800 MHz) correlates reasonably well with solar activity. That's why it was chosen in first place, during a time where EUV/X-ray observations were not yet possible (1940s). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 Do you remember the large sunspot that I CORRECTLY predicted? Well... LONG ALIGNMENTS WITH MERCURY AND VENUS OFF COURSE... In case you can't find them... I put them in red.... November 1 (12:30) – 11 (07:15), 2020 Triple Line Up Venus – Mercury - Ceres November 1 (18:45)- 7 (06:15), 2020 Triple Line Up Vesta – Venus - Pallas November 3 (01:45)- 12 (05:15), 2020 Triple Line Up Saturn – Jupiter- Mercury November 8 (03:00) - 11 (05:30), 2020 Triple Line Up Mars – Earth - Venus November 12 (02:15)- 20 (14:00), 2020 Triple Line Up Vesta – Venus - Jupiter November 14 (02:00) – 17 (16:00), 2020 Triple Line Up Vesta – Mercury - Pallas November 14 (04:00)- 20 (04:45), 2020 Triple Line Up Mercury – Ceres – Neptune November 15 (14:00)- 23 (20:15), 2020 Triple Line Up Venus – Ceres – Neptune November 15 (22:15) - 18 (16:30), 2020 Triple Line Up Uranus – Earth - Mercury November 17 (22:00)- December 29 (17:00), 2020 Triple Line Up Vesta – Venus - Saturn November 22 (18:00)- 26 (05:30), 2020 Triple Line Up Uranus - Mars – Mercury November 23 (18:15) – December 10 (22:45), 2020 Triple Line Up Vesta – Mercury - Jupiter November 26 (01:45) – 28 (08:15), 2020 Triple Line Up Juno – Mercury - Earth November 26 (03:30) - 29 (06:30), 2020 Triple Line Up Uranus – Earth - Venus December 3 (06:15)- 7 (14:30), 2020 Triple Line Up Uranus – Mars – Venus December 4 (00:30) – 6 (20:30), 2020 Triple Line Up Juno – Mercury - Mars December 13 (04:45)- 15 (23:30), 2020 Triple Line Up Juno – Venus - Earth December 17 (14:15) – 19 (20:45), 2020 Triple Line Up Venus – Mercury - Neptune December 23 (19:00) – 28 (02:45), 2020 Triple Line Up Vesta – Mercury - Pallas December 24 (01:30)- 27 (14:00), 2020 Triple Line Up Juno – Venus - Mars December 26 (01:00)- 28 (00:30), 2020 Triple Line Up Venus – Mercury – Ceres December 27 (05:30)- 29 (03:00), 2020 Triple Line Up Venus – Mercury – Chiron December 28 (20:00)- January 7 (04:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Chiron – Ceres – Venus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gMike Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 12 hours ago, helios said: The causation is actually reverse. ARs cause radio emissions and the 10.7 cm band (2800 MHz) correlates reasonably well with solar activity. That's why it was chosen in first place, during a time where EUV/X-ray observations were not yet possible (1940s). The 10.7cm flux represents more than just sunspots. It is actually an indicator of solar activity within the corona / chromosphere. The flux is generated over the whole disk - not just in visually active regions. Therefore a higher flux indicates a greater likelihood of sunspots arising. So my question to Patrick still stands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, 3gMike said: The 10.7cm flux represents more than just sunspots. Of course, otherwise the flux would be zero without sunspots. Luckily, these days we have radio telescopes like the VLA with reasonable angular resolution, so we know exactly where those emissions are coming from and how they are produced: https://www.haystack.mit.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/conf_RadioStars2012_slides_White_web.pdf F10.7 does not allow a prediction of solar activity. Only a measurement of solar activity. Edited August 18, 2021 by helios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 One correct prediction doesn't mean all. I can't deny your research, but posting each of your selected dates without clarification isn't the way to go. Something for the future onward. Go back to look at your August 6th post. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Jesterface23 said: One correct prediction doesn't mean all. I can't deny your research, but posting each of your selected dates without clarification isn't the way to go. Something for the future onward. Go back to look at your August 6th post. To date, Patrick has refused advice regarding a finer resolution of their predictions. We will see by August 29th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher S. Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) By now, we are stuck on repeat. Patrick's table of alignments itself, as well as his published research, are perfectly competent and plausible in consideration of things. Some of you have taken to debating his assertion of the unpublished leaps of logic - all well-intention and so far productive as far as discourse goes - but I'm beginning to see the same things being said by roughly the same people to the same recipient. In short, I'd like if we could shift the dialogue back to something resembling constructive criticism or brainstorming. I don't know the value of advice in Patrick's eyes, but his approach could use some slight adjustments. Nothing that aims to alter his work or his principals, worry not: State openly that this research is ongoing alongside your predictions and posts where you share notes, tables, etc.. This does the following: Grants you benefit of the doubt inherently Re-focuses the tone of discourse Persuades or intrigues others to maybe lend a hand(as you may have solicited before) in the studies In terms of your desk-type workflow, I would only recommend that you take a look at total mass and/or individual magnetic field strength, in addition to distance from the Sun, of relevant celestial bodies within alignments/conjunctions to help determine a "scale of magnitude" so to speak of the mechanisms you firmly assert are at play. Moreover, and this is a whisper in the wind... keep note of Mercury's and Venus's position relative to any meaningful alignments/conjunctions. Perhaps those are interfering(with the Sun's magnetic field) in some way 😉 Edited August 21, 2021 by Christopher S. Wording adjustments 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Christopher S. said: In short, I'd like if we could shift the dialogue back to something resembling constructive criticism or brainstorming. How about that. Stellar-planetary magnetic interaction was studied and some evidence has been found in exoplanetary systems for close-in planets in extreme cases. https://doi.org/10.1051/0004-6361/201219002 There is also research ongoing at the AIP Stellar Physics and Exoplanets. Here is a presentation in german (auto-translated subtitles available): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLHLobUifeY However, in our solar system the interactions are by far too weak. (too big distances, too weak external magnetic fields). In comparison to exoplanetary systems, it would be rather trivial to find a linkage in our own solar system. Throwing out possible dates of possible sunspots during a phase of the cycle where <25% spotless days are expected, is just pointless. Edited August 21, 2021 by helios 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher S. Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 1:43 AM, helios said: How about that. Stellar-planetary magnetic interaction was studied and some evidence has been found in exoplanetary systems for close-in planets in extreme cases. https://doi.org/10.1051/0004-6361/201219002 There is also research ongoing at the AIP Stellar Physics and Exoplanets. Here is a presentation in german (auto-translated subtitles available): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLHLobUifeY However, in our solar system the interactions are by far too weak. (too big distances, too weak external magnetic fields). In comparison to exoplanetary systems, it would be rather trivial to find a linkage in our own solar system. Throwing out possible dates of possible sunspots during a phase of the cycle where <25% spotless days are expected, is just pointless. I have no doubt that a very rough, ridden-with-subjectivity system for determining in some relative quantity to another quantity the magnitude of the specific types of interactions could pave the way for a more concrete, hypothetical(until measurable) correlation that can be assigned a number, much like Tornadoes, Flares, Earthquakes etc. to determine the potential for sunspot amplification. That is, after all, the only value I see in Geryl's research(as it relates to sunspot prediction) as of now. That is the basis for his predictions - banking on a chance at a sunspot being amplified by the alignment of complex magnetic fields/structures. I'd rather just know if a sunspot has extra batteries stowed away somewhere, rather than guess when they'll appear and at what strength. It's like, looking at sea surface temperatures and guessing based on that alone at the probability of hurricane/cyclone/typhoon formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gMike Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) On 8/18/2021 at 8:02 AM, Patrick Geryl said: Do you remember the large sunspot that I CORRECTLY predicted? Well... LONG ALIGNMENTS WITH MERCURY AND VENUS OFF COURSE... In case you can't find them... I put them in red.... Patrick, In an effort to improve understanding of your theory I have generated a visual representation of the alignments which you identified for November 2020. I hope that it helps to see overlaps and to understand possible reinforcement from multiple alignments. I have shown the three alignments that you identified in red - also red on this plot. Those you left in black are generally shown as yellow, except for the first line , which I showed in orange. I marked this orange because it includes both Mercury and Venus, so I would have expected it to have more of an effect, but perhaps you have some additional data that led you to omit it from the red list? You will see that I have included values for Sunspot Number and 10.7cm flux for each day, and below that I have included the data for each Active Region within the period. When you refer to "the large sunspot that I correctly predicted" I assume that you refer to AR 2786, but there is clearly a significant growth in the number of active regions in the period 18th to 30th November, and a stepwise build up in the days 22nd to 24th. If I can find a bit more time I will follow the progression into December 2020 Edited August 23, 2021 by 3gMike Inserted image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Clarification: 1. You need a relevant sunspot formula, meaning with Mercury or Venus in the formula. 2. You need long alignments with Mercury or Venus to 'GROW' this sunspot. THIS WILL ALSO GROW THE OTHER SUNSPOTS OR KEEP THEM LONGER ALIVE. 3. I don't know where the sunspots will be formed. If on the Farside, no amplification in the Flux to be seen on this side! Read that again... 4. If there are several sunspots, a sunspot can stop growing while another one starts growing. Depends from the formula. Quite complicated interactions. You need to know all the formulas from the sunspots on the Sun and try to figure out how this works! 5. There is currently only one sunspot that is relevant. But where on the Farside? August 21 (12:45) August 11 (22:45) – 21 (04:15), 2021: Opposition Mars - Neptune across the Sun? August 18 (07:15) – September 1 (22:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Uranus – Ceres – Vesta August 19 (21:15) – 29 (08:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Neptune – Pallas - Mercury August 15 (04:45) – 21 (23:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Uranus – Ceres – Mercury August 21 (12:45) – 22 (16:00), 2021: Conjunction Mercury - Vesta and the Sun 6. Today or tomorrow we have a fast growing sunspot: August 23 (19:00) August 23 (18:00) – 25 (02:00), 2021: Opposition Mercury - Uranus across the Sun August 23 (19:00) – 26 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Neptune August 24 (21:30) – 28 (05:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Chiron - Earth – Venus Unused August 24 (21:30) August 23 (18:00) – 25 (02:00), 2021: Opposition Mercury - Uranus across the Sun August 23 (19:00) – 26 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Neptune August 24 (04:45) – 26 (11:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Pallas August 23 (19:00) – 26 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Neptune August 24 (21:30) – 26 (08:30), 2021: Opposition Mercury - Ceres across the Sun 7. These are all the alignments active tomorrow: August 24, 2021 August 3 (05:15)- September 3 (07:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Saturn - Jupiter – Ceres August 8 (06:30) – September 3 (17:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Pluto – Pallas - Ceres August 17 (17:00) – September 4 (19:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Neptune – Pallas - Earth August 18 (07:15) – September 1 (22:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Uranus – Ceres – Vesta August 19 (21:15) – 29 (08:30), 2021 Triple Line Up Neptune – Pallas - Mercury August 23 (18:00) – 25 (02:00), 2021: Opposition Mercury - Uranus across the Sun August 23 (19:00) – 26 (08:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Neptune August 24 (04:45) – 26 (11:00), 2021 Triple Line Up Mercury - Earth – Pallas August 24 (21:30) – 28 (05:15), 2021 Triple Line Up Chiron - Earth – Venus August 24 (21:30) – 26 (08:30), 2021: Opposition Mercury - Ceres across the Sun Remark: We see strong alignments with the Earth. Neptune, Pallas and Mercury are already in long alignments. Normal conclusion: Fast growing sunspot. But these are very strong alignments with the Earth... Makes me wonder if something else could be expected... Edited August 23, 2021 by Patrick Geryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 13 hours ago, Christopher S. said: It's like, looking at sea surface temperatures and guessing based on that alone at the probability of hurricane/cyclone/typhoon formation. It's more like rolling dice. Sea surface temperature is actually correlated with severe weather. But planetary alignment has not found to be correlated with solar activity. There is no evidence for that as of today, despite decades of comprehensive data being available for everyone to look back to. Before making predictions concerning the future, one could easily validate their theory on data from the past. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) Getting better. How does the confirmation work given we can only see about 50% of the Sun, our side of the solar disk. What do you look for for confirmation? Edited August 23, 2021 by Jesterface23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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