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5 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said:

The M2 flare was fairly eruptive. Now to wait and see if the CME is Earth directed.

fairly?

6 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said:

The M2 flare was fairly eruptive. Now to wait and see if the CME is Earth directed.

Isnt the region a bit too far west now?

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3 minutes ago, MinYoongi said:

so we could expect a glancing blow maybe? is it too far west for a full hit?

It does look like there is a full halo in the C2 imagery, the bulk going south-southwest and the rest dull. Now we just need to see how fast it is, but I won't be able to see until after work.

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Just now, Jesterface23 said:

It does look like there is a full halo in the C2 imagery, the bulk going south-southwest and the rest dull. Now we just need to see how fast it is, but I won't be able to see until after work.

So Full halo but glancing blow? or full hit? Sorry. im confused by all the phenomena and terms and stuff lately.

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22 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said:

To be determined, but the odds are a glancing blow or somewhere between the two.

sorry but how did u determine the trajectory and where the bulk is going? there is no new lasco data for me.. :D 

because i remember @Flareguy18 saying stereo is not good to determine it 

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Just now, MinYoongi said:

sorry but how did u determine the trajectory and where the bulk is going? there is no new lasco data for me.. :D 

Check out the GOES SUVI imager on the NOAA website. It's animated, so it's easier to see the movement of CME shockwaves. It's not exact though, it just gives an impression. You don't get long though, the animations aren't left up.

It does look pretty earth-bound to me though, perhaps glancing to the south.

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1 minute ago, HalfFeralHuman said:

 

It does look pretty earth-bound to me though, perhaps glancing to the south.

So to specify, you think it will be full hit rather than glancing blow? im still trying to learn how to determine where an AR has to be to fire earthbound CME or when its too far west etc etc.. 

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Just now, HalfFeralHuman said:

It does look pretty earth-bound to me though, perhaps glancing to the south.

Actually, scratch that! checking SDO's 1600A channel suggests a more northern trajectory. I don't know what to make of this one, but I figure it's a least a near-miss. A problem is that the narrower/more direct the blast, the longer it takes to widen out enough so SOHO can get a good take on it.

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Just now, HalfFeralHuman said:

Actually, scratch that! checking SDO's 1600A channel suggests a more northern trajectory. I don't know what to make of this one, but I figure it's a least a near-miss. A problem is that the narrower/more direct the blast, the longer it takes to widen out enough so SOHO can get a good take on it.

isnt more northern good? Im soo confused lmao! 

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2 minutes ago, MinYoongi said:

So to specify, you think it will be full hit rather than glancing blow? im still trying to learn how to determine where an AR has to be to fire earthbound CME or when its too far west etc etc.. 

My guess is that this one will be a fairly full-on hit. I have to be clear that that's just my guess however.

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2 minutes ago, Flareguy18 said:

Hmmm, where is everyone getting their imagery? LASCO is still not in range for me yet.

SDO/Suvi/Stereo. 

Thats why i said i dont know how to say something will hit/miss based on stereo.. can you maybe take a look and give a guess?

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3 minutes ago, HalfFeralHuman said:

im still trying to learn how to determine where an AR has to be to fire earthbound CME or when its too far west etc etc..

Honestly I don't think it's that simple. I think it depends on how things are flowing where we have no way to see. I get my early guesswork from looking at how CME blasts appear to spread immediately after eruption, coupled with the shape of things before. It's all unprovable and and the moment just using intuition to try and find patterns. I don't have anything more concrete yet, but I do believe there may be a way to make an 'early warning' model from it.

1 minute ago, MinYoongi said:

can you maybe take a look and give a guess?

Yeah. That southward blast is pretty obvious. The two things I'm focussed on is the right pointing stream and what appears to be a switchback under. I don't know how that's going to play out. Sorry, I guess I'm not giving much here.

For ref, I'm looking at this image:

20220817_162354_d7c2A.jpg 

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Emerging on C3... I think this is the most impressive one we have seen yet in this latest string of CMEs. I initially did not see any ejecta directed more to the N on C2, but C3 is showing a more complete picture. I'm actually wondering if these are multiple CMEs in very quick succession. The northern ejecta almost looks like it's a hair ahead of the denser stuff in the SW.

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