Popular Post David Silver Posted October 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) Hello, I’m starting this thread because I am trying to learn more from scientific-minded folks. Please don’t speculate or be mean. I’m aiming to collect and discuss data. If you are unaware or skeptical about the topic, consider yourself lucky. I am over 50. I have always been unusually affected by the sun and moon, and am overtly aware that human beings are bioelectric. I am hypersensitive due to a medical condition, while most are not affected…However, in the past 12 months, it has greatly intensified. I have seen multiple medical professionals and had MRIs. When the IMF and Bz are negative, my symptoms intensify. Heliobiology is not a widely-available topic, but I have seen a recent uptick in research papers, with surprising data. Such as, are you aware that during a geomagnetic storm, human blood viscosity can increase as much as 20 percent?! I’ll start: “1. Increase in solar wind intensity was correlated with increases in heart rate, which we interpret as a biological stress response. Increase in cosmic rays, solar radio flux, and Schumann resonance power was all associated with increased HRV and parasympathetic activity. The findings support the hypothesis that energetic environmental phenomena affect psychophysical processes that can affect people in different ways depending on their sensitivity, health status and capacity for self-regulation. It appears that sharp or sudden variations in geomagnetic and solar activity as well as geomagnetic storms can act as stressors, which alter regulatory processes such as melatonin/serotonin balance...” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5805718/ “2. Over the last 20 years, several research papers have presented the results of investigating the relationships between space weather parameters and human health. Some of these results are summarized below. Solar activity may contribute to the development of and be a trigger of the exacerbation of nervous and mental disorders, such schizophrenia, Alzheimer’s disease, and multiple sclerosis a) High values of geomagnetic activity have a negative effect on human cardiovascular health that includes significant variations in heart rate variability. b) The number of incidents of alterations in blood flow is increased (increased systolic and diastolic blood pressure and epileptic seizures) during the solar activity periods . c) Incidents of coronary disease and myocardial infarction increase during spans of high solar activity, as compared to years with low solar activity. d) Sharp or sudden variations in geomagnetic and solar activity can act as stressors, which alter regulatory processes such as breathing, reproductive, and increase total deaths total deaths . e) Several studies support the idea that geomagnetic disturbances decrease the melatonin levels in the human body. f) Positive correlations exist between neurological system diseases (ie, depression and mental illness) and geomagnetic activity . g) The standard metabolism and behaviour patterns of humans and other species are affected by solar activity . h) Solar disturbances are associated with significant increases in hospital admissions for suicide attempts, homicides, and traffic accidents . i) Investigations of the blood of tested patients have shown that the viscosity of blood during solar activity periods increases sharply, so the risk of developing morbid cardiovascular system disease is increased... https://biomedscis.com/pdf/OAJBS.ID.000203.pdf” Lets please discuss and learn more. Thanks. Edited October 10, 2021 by David Silver More detail 9 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Spacex Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 It could be ragweed. Or mold, tree, grass or other weed pollen in the air that triggers seasonal allergies. The pollen count for some of these peak in the Spring around March and in the Fall around October. The seasonal variation of magnetic storms peak in frequency of occurrence during these months as well. https://www.sws.bom.gov.au/Educational/3/1/5 What I would suggest is the need to collect more data including many other factors. Run statistical analyses of correlations, covariances, etc. to determine if there is a strong case to declare a specific independent cause that is the driver of particular physiological response. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) Hi, thanks for commenting. Allergies certainly have many negative physical effects anyone should consider. But to not change the subject, we’re really only talking about known and current research on health effects from solar weather. For instance, the M flare we had around August 28th woke me up a couple minutes after it happened with a stabbing migraine, in the typical right temple geomagnetic storm location most others suffer with. I’m past speculation or correlation; this thread is about causation and more to learn about various heliobiology research. Edited October 11, 2021 by David Silver 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Christine L Posted October 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 Hi David, Many of us are sensitive to changes to the magnetosphere and solar activity. I don’t question the validity of this at all either. I have seen several studies - mostly by the NIH (as you noted). Yes, this has greatly intensified as we move out of the solar cycle minimum. You are in good company! For me, this happens when the Planetary K index is above 6 or 7, when solar wind is above 500, or when the magnetometer is above 130. I know a number of people who are particularly affected by solar flares. I feel them when they are mid M-Class and above. We have found that electrolytes help (including liquid magnesium), hydration, being in nature and rest. Basically, things that support your Krebs cycle. I hope this helps. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post David Silver Posted October 11, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2021 (edited) I appreciate your posting, Christine, nice to meet you. It’s a bit lonely to be hypersensitive to this problem that doesn’t affect most others. Studies show that this is largely affected by ones ability to regulate stressors. My condition is such that once “triggered” my system has no shut off switch, and can stay affected for hours or days, or longer. I’m feeling tonight’s storm already as head pressure and tinnitus is reaching 10 out of 10. I know we’re some hours from the main impact as of 6pm EST. I will continue to share research quotes and links in this thread, and hope others do also. Edited October 12, 2021 by David Silver 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 Midnight Monday 10/11 impact, yikes. First direct hit of the solar cycle. Tinnitus off the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Oscillations Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) Hi David. I've been researching cycles of investor optimism and pessimism for many years but have only recently come upon this forum and the field of heliobiology. Perhaps the following info is well known to you and others on the forum, but I find the topic of this article new and interesting: "Anatoly Delyukov · Lyudmila Didyk The effects of extra-low-frequency atmospheric pressure oscillations on human mental activity, Received: 22 August 1997/Revised: 3 December 1998/Accepted: 25 February 1999." I have put the authors' publicly available abstract below. This info is interesting to me because my measures of collective investor optimism/pessimism appear to correlate over short horizons (e.g. several weeks) with Oulu's neutron data series in its UNCORRECTED form (not corrected for atmospheric pressure variations). In some situations, cycles of investor reaction actually precede the cycles apparent in the Oulu uncorrected series. If I my understanding is correct, a potential hypothesis is that humans (investors in my data) detect some sort of a disturbance BEFORE electromagnetic disturbances hit earth. and possibly more CONCURRERNTLY with changes in slight atmospheric pressure oscillations, which may have a solar source. I am working to develop a robust dataset to test this hypothesis. But this would explain you and others having reactions to solar activity in advance of the solar activity's EM forces actually reaching earth (did I understand your comment correctly?). Some sort of solar-related force (but not electromagnetic) may be influencing the slight APOs. The reactions you report may be best explained by the electromagnetic forces, so the APOs might be only a small factor for you. Have you encountered the Delyekov/Didyk work? If so, any insights how to track slight atmospheric pressure oscillations? Any info on other forces that affect human behavior that may affect earth prior to electromagnetic waves? Best regards, Space Oscillations ------------------------- Abstract: .1:Abstract Slight atmospheric pressure oscillations (APO) in the extra-low-frequency range below 0.1 Hz, which frequently occur naturally, can influence human mental activity. This phenomenon has been observed in experiments with a group of 12 healthy volunteers exposed to experimentally created APO with amplitudes 30–50 Pa in the frequency band 0.011–0.17 Hz. Exposure of the subjects to APO for 15–30 min caused significant changes in attention and short-term memory functions, performance rate, and mental processing flexibility. The character of the response depended on the APO frequency and coherence. Periodic APO promoted purposeful mental activity, accompanied by an increase in breath-holding duration and a slower heart rate. On the other hand, quasi-chaotic APO, similar to the natural perturbations of atmospheric pressure, disrupted mental activity. These observations suggest that APO could be partly responsible for meteorosensitivity in humans. Edited October 12, 2021 by Space Oscillations 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 12, 2021 Author Share Posted October 12, 2021 I don’t know enough about the energy that arrives more quickly preceding CMEs (aside from X-rays), or Earth’s global electric circuit in detail and how it relates to APO, but I can tell you that 6 hours prior to tonight’s impact, my symptoms increased significantly. Bz negative allows more energy into our system, whereas when Bz is positive the Earth’s field defects and it’s almost a non-event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine L Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 David, Yes, I felt the CME before it arrived too. You mention feeling lonely because others don’t feel the same. Many of my friends are helio-sensitive too, but we are in different regions of the world. Often, one of us will feel the energy before the others or the impact is regional so it’s not 100% synced. I have noticed that “regular” people are influenced even though they don’t realize it when they are suddenly quite tired or have a headache and attribute it to something else. Before I realized i was influenced by solar dynamics, when I felt really tired, I just wrote it off to a bad night’s sleep or joked that it was a “double gravity day.” Posting some research here, which may interest you (or the various sources note)… https://biomedscis.com/pdf/OAJBS.ID.000203.pdf I often check research using academia.edu as well. Another source of influence for me are big storms and weather systems. Have you followed the Schumann Resonance or the work of HeartMath? Also, curious if you have ever tried salt baths during these “events” to reset your system. Kind regards, Christine 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlackTara Posted October 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/9/2021 at 10:14 PM, David Silver said: Hello, I’m starting this thread because I am trying to learn more from scientific-minded folks. Please don’t speculate or be mean. I’m aiming to collect and discuss data. If you are unaware or skeptical about the topic, consider yourself lucky. I am over 50. I have always been unusually affected by the sun and moon, and am overtly aware that human beings are bioelectric. I am hypersensitive due to a medical condition, while most are not affected…However, in the past 12 months, it has greatly intensified. I have seen multiple medical professionals and had MRIs. When the IMF and Bz are negative, my symptoms intensify. Heliobiology is not a widely-available topic, but I have seen a recent uptick in research papers, with surprising data. Such as, are you aware that during a geomagnetic storm, human blood viscosity can increase as much as 20 percent?! I’ll start: “1. Increase in solar wind intensity was correlated with increases in heart rate, which we interpret as a biological stress response. Increase in cosmic rays, solar radio flux, and Schumann resonance power was all associated with increased HRV and parasympathetic activity. The findings support the hypothesis that energetic environmental phenomena affect psychophysical processes that can affect people in different ways depending on their sensitivity, health status and capacity for self-regulation. It appears that sharp or sudden variations in geomagnetic and solar activity as well as geomagnetic storms can act as stressors, which alter regulatory processes such as melatonin/serotonin balance...” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5805718/ “2. Over the last 20 years, several research papers have presented the results of investigating the relationships between space weather parameters and human health. Some of these results are summarized below. Solar activity may contribute to the development of and be a trigger of the exacerbation of nervous and mental disorders, such schizophrenia, Alzheimer’s disease, and multiple sclerosis a) High values of geomagnetic activity have a negative effect on human cardiovascular health that includes significant variations in heart rate variability. b) The number of incidents of alterations in blood flow is increased (increased systolic and diastolic blood pressure and epileptic seizures) during the solar activity periods . c) Incidents of coronary disease and myocardial infarction increase during spans of high solar activity, as compared to years with low solar activity. d) Sharp or sudden variations in geomagnetic and solar activity can act as stressors, which alter regulatory processes such as breathing, reproductive, and increase total deaths total deaths . e) Several studies support the idea that geomagnetic disturbances decrease the melatonin levels in the human body. f) Positive correlations exist between neurological system diseases (ie, depression and mental illness) and geomagnetic activity . g) The standard metabolism and behaviour patterns of humans and other species are affected by solar activity . h) Solar disturbances are associated with significant increases in hospital admissions for suicide attempts, homicides, and traffic accidents . i) Investigations of the blood of tested patients have shown that the viscosity of blood during solar activity periods increases sharply, so the risk of developing morbid cardiovascular system disease is increased... https://biomedscis.com/pdf/OAJBS.ID.000203.pdf” Lets please discuss and learn more. Thanks. Hi, David, i guess I replied to your posts in the wrong forum topic. Yes, I have been suffering like you and I have dysautonomia to begin with. I represent the medical side of the this topic rather than the astrophysical side like most of you are. I am a clinical pharmacologist from the University of Washington. Used to do clinical trials and have been on the medical side of the aisle rather than the astrophysical. To put it bluntly, the stuff coming from the sun and Schumann Resonance gives me daily headaches, my cardiovascular system goes completely haywire with bp, pulse and palpitation symptoms, reflux GERD etc. I get so irritable as I said I my post in the wrong forum topic, I want to politely, knock everyone’s block off. Everything you referred to happens but much more research needs to be done; double blind controlled trials, the gold standard but nobody has the money to this do as sponsors can’t make money off it. I can’t cure my dysautonomia but only control the symptoms. Dysautonomia is what the long Covid people have, a post viral syndrome. But during solar events and even just Resonance events my baseline symptoms get much worse. So this is not allergies or in your head. Your nervous system is responding to what’s coming out of the sky. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybertroner Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Hi David! Thanks for sharing these articles with us! I'm new here, just come regularly to check the space weather, because I'm heliosensitive too. I'm also a professional astronomer (work in Russia), but not in Solar Dynamics, so I'm a bit familiar with the topic. I have OCD from my childhood and I almost always react to solar storms and activity with sudden intensifying of my symptoms. Knowing that it was caused by solar weather just helps me to cope with it and return to work. I noticed that link in 2009 when I was a student of the faculty of Physics and soon after I got to know NOAA SWPC site. Initially I noticed that sudden raise of Kp indices correlates with my causeless bursts of anxiety and sometimes even panic attacs. It may be just a rapid raise from Kp0 to Kp3. When I understood that Kp indices are averaged on time I looked to magnetometer data and noticed that sudden drop or raise causes my mental problems with 1-hour accuracy. Interesting that during long periods of solar activity the "threshold" of my sensitivity rises - I react to bigger events only. According to the recent studies OCD is related to serotonin methabolism (Serotonin transporter missense mutation associated with a complex neuropsychiatric phenotype | Molecular Psychiatry (nature.com)) The first article you mentioned also points out that solar activity affects serotonin/melatonin balance, so it's very likely there is some link. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jesterface23 Posted October 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2021 For research I'd wait for a complex sunspot region to come up, then ignore anything space weather for maybe up to two weeks while noting down symptoms on a timeline as they happen. Once the time is up the data can be compared. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) The control group required would have to be sheltered from the Sun entirely. They would have to be underground, in a chamber, somewhere with no sunlight, and the sample size would have to include many people, since the variables on human biology are massive. Psychological issues are even more variable, since the definitions and classifications are behavioral and self reported conditions. Is it the Sun? Or is it the culture, genetics, diet, sleep cycle, individual hysteresis (past conditions)? How are variables omitted/reduced? The very first link describes a study with only 16 people over 5 months. Perhaps a larger sample size would define the impact clearly? For example: Vitamin D is processed and created by exposure to the Sun. Vitamin D has measurable biological effects, which can be replicated without sunlight. Helios-sensitivity sounds borderline pseudo/new age, since "Sun activity" could mean a variety of things. I understand daylight, and sleep cycles can impact human biology. Solar flares? Doubtful... Edited October 13, 2021 by Archmonoth 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) Tara and Cyber, nice to meet you, and thanks for detailed replies. I’ve also spent a year objectively charting my symptoms and geomagnetic conditions, being careful not to confirm my bias…I personally no longer have and doubt or question. And, Heliobiology is not really under debate any longer. Again, read the abstracts above. There are dozens of others. I’m not sure about previous solar cycles bc I was unaware of this topic. I can say the past 5-6 I was largely unaffected. Only in the past 12 months during this initial phase of the new solar cycle, I’m surprisingly affected. This is similar to my lifetime of being affected by the full moon, typically worst a day or two before the full moon peak, (but also depending on the rise/set timing.) Are you familiar with the ACES test? (Adverse Chilhood Experiences) The short explanation is that if you rank a 5 on the test, your physiology is affected such that you are 5 times more likely to develop serious illness, 5 times more likely to be symptomatic. Not to get too personal, but I’m an 8 on ACEs and can attest to a lifetime of physical problems as a result. I agree the hysteresis, ; ) your history and complex resulting development, is a key factor in being heliosensitive or not. If you’re not, you’re lucky. The research shows that this largely affects those who don’t quickly auto regulate stressors ( ie, PTSD, C-PTSD, and likely OCD, adhd, are within that spectrum). It’s gratifying to discuss this, thank you. Edited October 13, 2021 by David Silver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 The research wouldn't need to be done under super controlled environments. There would be needing to know that things aren't happening by chance. Having something happen to you and then checking for solar activity just won't stick scientifically. I am fairly certain two different timelines of multiple events where they can be brought together later to find the results is the way to go for future research on the topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 I’m just a citizen with this problem. Actual scientists are doing the actual research on the topic, and determining details of how data is to be organized. https://mdpi-res.com/d_attachment/atmosphere/atmosphere-12-00346/article_deploy/atmosphere-12-00346-v2.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, David Silver said: And, Heliobiology is not really under debate any longer. Again, read the abstracts above. There are dozens of others. You might not have any doubt, but that doesn't mean its fact. It sounds like you found a language to describe your symptoms and conclude they are from the Sun, rather than local systems. Have you eliminated other potential causes like diet, or chemicals like caffeine, drugs, alcohol? Finding something that makes sense to you, personally doesn't mean its true. 5 hours ago, David Silver said: This is similar to my lifetime of being affected by the full moon, typically worst a day or two before the full moon peak, (but also depending on the rise/set timing.) Regardless of the persistence of this myth, the Lunar effect is not real. There are plenty of studies I could post, but I urge you to be more critical of what you accept as fact. 5 hours ago, David Silver said: Are you familiar with the ACES test? (Adverse Chilhood Experiences) The short explanation is that if you rank a 5 on the test, your physiology is affected such that you are 5 times more likely to develop serious illness, 5 times more likely to be symptomatic. Not to get too personal, but I’m an 8 on ACEs and can attest to a lifetime of physical problems as a result. I agree the hysteresis, ; ) your history and complex resulting development, is a key factor in being heliosensitive or not. If you’re not, you’re lucky. The research shows that this largely affects those who don’t quickly auto regulate stressors ( ie, PTSD, C-PTSD, and likely OCD, adhd, are within that spectrum). It’s gratifying to discuss this, thank you. Trauma has many consequences on the human mind and body, but using the Sun to explain them is not science. Edited October 14, 2021 by Archmonoth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcardo Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 6:34 AM, David Silver said: I don’t know enough about the energy that arrives more quickly preceding CMEs (aside from X-rays), or Earth’s global electric circuit in detail and how it relates to APO, but I can tell you that 6 hours prior to tonight’s impact, my symptoms increased significantly. Bz negative allows more energy into our system, whereas when Bz is positive the Earth’s field defects and it’s almost a non-event. hi David from what i glean the cme passed earth for 6 hours beginning 6 hours prior to tonights impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 The CME had already impacted Earth about two and a half days ago. The CME may have fully passed by a day ago or possibly is still in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Archmonoth, I think you might enjoy a different thread more. I don’t have the time, energy and typing prowess to explain the detailed answer of my 50 year experience to you. Especially when someone is so married to their black and white opinion, I find it is pointless. The purpose of this thread is to share the ongoing research on this topic, have you read those abstracts above? Based on my experience, my objective analysis, and the modern scientific data, I trust the medical scientists more than random internet guy opinions. Please don’t be a bully. We are suffering, and finding others to discuss it with provides a rare source of relief. I understand why you don’t understand. It’s weird. It’s beyond our control. C-PTSD and trauma symptoms and the resulting dysfunction in self regulating stressors is hard for you to imagine, and easy for you to ignore. Our bodies are bioelectric meat, not only affected by changes in atmospheric pressure, but also the electromagnetic changes around us. It’s not hard to understand really. Here’s another recent Heliobiology study, to stay on topic: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S001393512101361X “Increased solar activity and geomagnetic disturbances are associated with significant decreases in peripheral leukocytes. The associations remained similar after controlling for ambient air pollution. Melatonin secretion and nervous system dysregulation are the hypothesized mechanisms of this association” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, David Silver said: Archmonoth, I think you might enjoy a different thread more. I don’t have the time, energy and typing prowess to explain the detailed answer of my 50 year experience to you. Especially when someone is so married to their black and white opinion, I find it is pointless. The purpose of this thread is to share the ongoing research on this topic You have plenty to share, but don't have the energy? 1 hour ago, David Silver said: have you read those abstracts above? I did, and mentioned the sample group of being only 16 people. I think it is a worthy observation of analyzing studies. You might not, but that's my opinion of the study. 1 hour ago, David Silver said: Based on my experience, my objective analysis, and the modern scientific data, I trust the medical scientists more than random internet guy opinions. To me, you are a random internet guy. Your experience is not an objective study. 1 hour ago, David Silver said: Please don’t be a bully. We are suffering, and finding others to discuss it with provides a rare source of relief. I don't discount your experiences, I discount the explanations you are suggesting for your suffering (solar phenomena, lunar effects), and then claiming they are fact. Using your suffering to express you opinion as fact is what I object to. I understand I am being critical and is seen as adversarial. 1 hour ago, David Silver said: I understand why you don’t understand. It’s weird. It’s beyond our control. C-PTSD and trauma symptoms and the resulting dysfunction in self regulating stressors is hard for you to imagine, and easy for you to ignore. I don't discount or deny these things, I am critical of the suggested cause being solar activity. 1 hour ago, David Silver said: Our bodies are bioelectric meat, not only affected by changes in atmospheric pressure, but also the electromagnetic changes around us. It’s not hard to understand really. With shielding around our nerves? We are bio-electric meat, under an magnetic shield, beneath a 100mile atmosphere, under clouds and weather, under buildings and blankets, under clothing and skin, and under all that, we have Myelin, which is a specific sheathing for our nerves to protect against autonomic disruption from external forces. Myelin - Wikipedia Multiple sclerosis is the condition of degraded Myelin, which I don't doubt the effects. 1 hour ago, David Silver said: Here’s another recent Heliobiology study, to stay on topic: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S001393512101361X Again, like vitamin D, I don't discount chemical creation for internal human biology. This study doesn't validate the entirety of heliosensitivty, and I think you know this. Edited October 14, 2021 by Archmonoth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 15, 2021 Author Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) I like discussion. Arguing online is dumb. I understand myelin sheaths, how stress corrodes them, etc. I’m actually fairly healthy in that regard. Eat avocados, long chain fatty acid repairs the sheath… But I definitely started this thread to collect heliobiology data, not argue w trolls. I’ll start another thread called “Argue if Heliobiology is Real” for you special. That’s not the purpose of this thread, thank you. Vitamin D = photons/ light converted in your body. Far more particles than photons strike your body simultaneously. The Earth’s 125 mile atmosphere IS an electromagnetic field. They are not separate, and we are not “shielded”. When KP is 0, and as the field diminishes rapidly in general, we are increasingly affected. Every cell in your body is a dipole giving and taking a charge. You are circulating ions with your blood cells. (No one said anything about the nerve myelin having anything to do with this anyway, super random.) You are permeated all day every day by external radiation, rays, particles from many sources. Be lucky you don’t feel it. There are multiple abstracts above. Here is more science: ”An increase in SW density results in an increase in the dynamic pressure on the magnetosphere, its restructuring, and a change in the geometry and quality factor of an ionospheric duct. As a consequence, the parameters of Schumann resonances change, Pc1 pulsations are generated, and infrasound generation is intensified. All these processes are discussed in the literature as affecting the biological systems. Thus, it is reasonable to consider just the moment of SW density increase as the beginning of magnetosphere changes with biotropic effect.” https://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S0001433811070085 Edited October 15, 2021 by David Silver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 19 hours ago, David Silver said: I understand myelin sheaths, how stress corrodes them, etc. I’m actually fairly healthy in that regard. Eat avocados, long chain fatty acid repairs the sheath… But I definitely started this thread to collect heliobiology data, not argue w trolls. If they shield your nerves from external radiation, why wouldn't it be relevant? I am doubtful of many of the suggested impacts of studies you are posting, and I am trying to understand the mechanics of HOW the disruption gets into biological systems which are robust against such disturbances. 19 hours ago, David Silver said: Vitamin D = photons/ light converted in your body. Far more particles than photons strike your body simultaneously. Through a chemical process, not disruption of neurons, since they are shielded from such disruption. I don't doubt photosynthesis in plants, or light depravation in winter months affects mental states in animals. Those mechanisms makes sense, and the studies are robust. 19 hours ago, David Silver said: The Earth’s 125 mile atmosphere IS an electromagnetic field. They are not separate, and we are not “shielded”. When KP is 0, and as the field diminishes rapidly in general, we are increasingly affected. Every cell in your body is a dipole giving and taking a charge. You are circulating ions with your blood cells. (No one said anything about the nerve myelin having anything to do with this anyway, super random.) You are permeated all day every day by external radiation, rays, particles from many sources. Be lucky you don’t feel it. I feel sun burns, I feel the lack of light, and I don't doubt those. I'm trying to parse apart the ball of knots you are asserting. For example, when astronauts are in space, they are bombarded by all sorts of radiation, and they can be affected substantially, because they are not shielded. They can even hallucinate through the stimulation of the nerves/chemicals in their eyes called phosphenes. : Cosmic ray visual phenomena - Wikipedia We are shielded enough to prevent such phenomena from affecting us on earth with all that atmosphere, and clouds and such. 19 hours ago, David Silver said: There are multiple abstracts above. Here is more science: ”An increase in SW density results in an increase in the dynamic pressure on the magnetosphere, its restructuring, and a change in the geometry and quality factor of an ionospheric duct. As a consequence, the parameters of Schumann resonances change, Pc1 pulsations are generated, and infrasound generation is intensified. All these processes are discussed in the literature as affecting the biological systems. Thus, it is reasonable to consider just the moment of SW density increase as the beginning of magnetosphere changes with biotropic effect.” https://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S0001433811070085 "Thus it is reasonable to consider..." could mean whatever you want. Infrasound and Schuman resonances are extremely low frequencies, less than the disruption your cell phone would cause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) Since this thread exists for the purpose of heliosensitive people discussing our experience, and sharing research on the topic, I would normally not engage with someone who fits the description in the original post in which I requested skeptics go somewhere else. But you’re so woefully misinformed I have no choice but to correct these painful errors for anyone reading who cares about reality, medical science or the topic of heliobiology. You posit a lot of nonsequitir false narratives: we don’t know the mechanism that causes one to be heliosensitive or how it works, but your random focus on myelin and neurons is nonsensical. Nonetheless, I’ll bite: Your nervous system is not a closed loop with insulated wires. I’m glad you believe in sunburns, but do you also believe in the cosmic rays that fly through your body on a daily basis? Do you believe your water-filled meatsack is electrically conductive, immersed within in and constantly affected by surrounding electromagnetic fields? In fact, energy is the basis of our being. You have the luxury of clearly not thinking much about such things, because you don’t need to, unlike heliosensitive people. Your nervous system includes, and one might say in entirely based upon, your brain. Your brain is energized by metabolized energy from food and air(ions), but also is energized by your surroundings, radiation, em fields, rays, particles, esp the sun, moon, Earth. Lots of folks have a mechanistic view of the body, it’s ok if we don’t agree about bioenergy. Disruption of the complex bioelectric chemical process involving neurotransmitters melatonin, serotonin, dopamine, others is currently suspected to be a cause of the pain, insomnia, migraines, and other symptoms some of us experience, above baseline, during geomagnetic disturbance. Based on MY experience, I have an assumption that an individual’s preexisting personal brain development and inability to regulate stressors is the cause for this hypersensitivity that you enjoy not having. When in a few years this topic becomes more mainstream, and you learn it is a medical problem that some people experience, you may have an experience of increased awareness of that time you were trolling a heliobiology post and annoying a group of suffering people with your unhelpful commentary. Sort of like going to a fibromyalgia group a decade ago and arguing the condition doesn’t exist, while the people reading are there looking for answers and help. Cosmic, dude https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281669809_Impact_of_Galactic_Cosmic_Rays_on_Earth's_Atmosphere_and_Human_Health “ “Cosmic rays entering the Earth’s atmosphere reach the biosphere and induce a variety of biological effects such as cell killing and mutation, chromosome aberration, carcinogenesis, blood pressure, heart beat rates, etc.“ Edited October 16, 2021 by David Silver 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 16, 2021 Author Share Posted October 16, 2021 Quote Studies on the influence of geomagnetic storms on the human brain functional state of healthy adult women patients (permanent group) in states of relaxation, photo-stimulation and hyper-ventilation have revealed a negative influence of severe geomagnetic storms on functional state of the human brain. As a rule, during periods of strong geomagnetic disturbances, indisposition, weakness and presence of indistinct localized headaches were recorded for majority of patients. Complex of nonspecific shifts on EEG reflects disorganization of functional activity of cortex of large hemispheres of the human brain at geomagnetically disturbed days, which is likely connected with dysfunction of integrative subcortical systems, with disbalance of its ascending synchronizing and desynchronizing influences. Imbalance of activating and deactivating mechanisms including dysfunctions of ergo- and tropho-tropic over-segmentary centers was registered. Strengthening cortical connections in the right cortical hemisphere and their short circuit on temporal sections during geomagnetically disturbed days were observed, while, in geomagnetically quiet days, a profile of correlation interrelations reflected weak internal- and inter-hemispheric connections. The threshold of convulsive (spasmodic) readiness of the human brain is reduced, which is especially dangerous for risk group persons. It is established that, in general, weak and moderate geomagnetic storms exert stimulating influence while strong disturbances of geomagnetic conditions activate braking (inhibiting) processes. Geomagnetic Storms and their Influence on the Human Brain Functional State 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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