LunarLights58 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 2936 is beta-gamma now https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/region/12936.html Edit: yeah beta-delta my bad Edited January 30, 2022 by Orneno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gMike Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, LunarLights58 said: 2936 is beta-gamma now https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/solar-activity/region/12936.html Actually Beta-Delta, but certainly becoming more active, with six C class flares so far today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 It’s developing nicely, isn’t it! I hope we see some nice Earth-directed flaring from this region as it approaches center disk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunarLights58 Posted January 28, 2022 Author Share Posted January 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, 3gMike said: Actually Beta-Delta, but certainly becoming more active, with six C class flares so far today. Oh you're right, I can't read 😅 On 1/26/2022 at 11:27 AM, Orneno said: Sorry, I’m just wishing we had more *real sunspots* (cough cough, you hear that, 2936?) Yeah, it heard you haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, LunarLights58 said: Yeah, it heard you haha Wish came true lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farm24 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Solarflaretracker200 said: Wish came true lol your wish is that sunspots command Edited January 28, 2022 by farm24 engrish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, farm24 said: you with is that sunspots command What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farm24 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Solarflaretracker200 said: What? it looks like wish turned into with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 minute ago, farm24 said: it looks like wish turned into with Oh 😂 I thought I was being stupid and not understanding English lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 AR 2936 is now just a Beta and something is flaring up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Solarflaretracker200 said: AR 2936 is now just a Beta and something is flaring up 2936 I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Orneno said: 2936 I think Yup it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris, HB9DFG Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Hello all Why has Spaceweather Live defined 2936 as a "beta" while Jan Alvestad (solen.info) has it as a "beta-gamma-delta" in the list? It's a big difference, so who is right? Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 uur terug, Chris, HB9DFG zei: Hello all Why has Spaceweather Live defined 2936 as a "beta" while Jan Alvestad (solen.info) has it as a "beta-gamma-delta" in the list? It's a big difference, so who is right? Regards, Chris Jan Alvestad does high resolution calculations. You can clearly see it was beta-gamma-delta at midnight. However, complex sunspots change rapidly. It is a bit weaker now. Anyway, my prediction that it would become complex is right! The only complex one from this month! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 uur geleden, Chris, HB9DFG zei: Why has Spaceweather Live defined 2936 as a "beta" while Jan Alvestad (solen.info) has it as a "beta-gamma-delta" in the list? SWPC is sometimes behind with their magnetic classification, keep in mind they only update it once a day normally so when a sunspot region evolves quickly its less accurate. That's why it's convenient to learn how to classify sunspot regions to see what the real magnetic classification is at that moment. So you'll need to ask a few questions (simply said): Is it easy to draw a line between the two polarities? (yes = beta, no = beta-gamma) Is there a spot of opposite polarity in the penumbral area of a sunspot? (yes = beta-gamma-delta, no = beta-gamma) So for this region: no, we can't easily draw a line anymore between the two polarities so it's sure is beta-gamma at least. And oh my yes it has a delta spot! so it is beta-gamma-delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 16 minuten geleden, Vancanneyt Sander zei: So you'll need to ask a few questions (simply said): Is it easy to draw a line between the two polarities? (yes = beta, no = beta-gamma) Is there a spot of opposite polarity in the penumbral area of a sunspot? (yes = beta-gamma-delta, no = beta-gamma) So for this region: no, we can't easily draw a line anymore between the two polarities so it's sure is beta-gamma at least. And oh my yes it has a delta spot! so it is beta-gamma-delta. Got several calculations about coming complex sunspots right… When will I get some help? Or will you be stuck to theories that don’t work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 minuten geleden, Patrick Geryl zei: Got several calculations about coming complex sunspots right… When will I get some help? Or will you be stuck to theories that don’t work? magnetic classification of sunspots isn't a theory but still a fact... Also: several calculations right, but you don't give a percentage of accuracy and thus it's still a very vague theory 😉 once you get +90% accuracy (with proof) then we'll talk again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gMike Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, Patrick Geryl said: Got several calculations about coming complex sunspots right… When will I get some help? Or will you be stuck to theories that don’t work? What sort of help are you seeking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 1 uur geleden, Vancanneyt Sander zei: magnetic classification of sunspots isn't a theory but still a fact... Also: several calculations right, but you don't give a percentage of accuracy and thus it's still a very vague theory 😉 once you get +90% accuracy (with proof) then we'll talk again. Look, wrote in coming sunspots that only 2 sunspots where a candidate to become complex = beta-gamma-delta. Got it right for the first. Wrote clearly before it became complex that it was a serious candidate. That is far from vague. Second on the Farside, but stereo not working… Will update for February. with a bit of help, it can go very fast… 50 minuten geleden, 3gMike zei: What sort of help are you seeking? I give the alignments and possible sunspots and you calculate it for every sunspot each month. you have the formula for 2936. Also the alignments. Fill in red the new alignments that are in the formula and place here. See “coming sunspots” (PDF) Electromagnetic Waves and Solar Killshots https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355037930_Electromagnetic_Waves_and_Solar_Killshots Edited January 29, 2022 by Patrick Geryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 AR 2936 is huge! Look at the size! This is the biggest region I have seen so far! Holy mother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 21 minuten geleden, Solarflaretracker200 zei: AR 2936 is huge! Look at the size! This is the biggest region I have seen so far! Holy mother It’s the biggest of this year so far, not the biggest of this cycle and 4 times smaller than the biggest regions since 1996. See the top 25 biggest sunspot regions page on SWL to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: It’s the biggest of this year so far, not the biggest of this cycle and 4 times smaller than the biggest regions since 1996. See the top 25 biggest sunspot regions page on SWL to find out. I’m surprised it’s not the biggest of this cycle actually, it must be near the top though. The only other big spots this SC that I can remember were simple Alphas, just large. This might be one of the only big and complex spots so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2786 was the biggest but didn’t have many spots. But tomorrow it could become the biggest of this cycle if it continues to grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Biggest sunspot region of 2022 and possibility of it becoming biggest of SC25? Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick P.A. Geryl Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 14 minuten geleden, Vancanneyt Sander zei: 2786 was the biggest but didn’t have many spots. But tomorrow it could become the biggest of this cycle if it continues to grow. I also calculated 2786. So currently this theory delivers the two biggest spots of this cycle. Not convinced yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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