Vancanneyt Sander Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 ‘Troublesome’ in the way that it could cause elevated solar activity, a sunspot that’s troublesome is a sunspot that causes a lot of activity. But fearmongers will read it as ‘hell will break loose’. words can be easily misinterpreted… 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamateur 1953 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 48 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: ‘Troublesome’ in the way that it could cause elevated solar activity, a sunspot that’s troublesome is a sunspot that causes a lot of activity. But fearmongers will read it as ‘hell will break loose’. words can be easily misinterpreted… Indeed. I just finished a clarification with a gal I know very well ( 40 yrs) add in our differences in gender + fear. amen!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 hours ago, MinYoongi said: Please dont jump to conclusions. Sara is a dear friend of mine and she has a tiktok channel dedicated against sun related fearmongering. She is working for the Airforce as a Spaceweather Forecaster and therefore just means this AR could be an active "troublemaker" making her job stressful. Not actually troublesome for random people or technology on ground. If you say so, my apologies. However, it would really be better if she clarified what she meant when she says something like "troublesome", out of context it can be interpreted the wrong way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 Back to topic, the region is gaining intermediate spots, the blue (right) big spot is also having some red spots nearby. still only beta? Its hard for me to tell when it can be considered gamma. can a spot grow without getting complexer? does the darker color in the coloured magnetogram indicates spot strength? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceWeather5464 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Quiet and kind of complex could be preparing for a big flare but only time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philalethes Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 20 hours ago, MinYoongi said: Okay, to me this part here : looked "gamma" because there are polarities intermixed. @Philalethes Bythos your opinion? finally an AR we can talk about again. also, it seems to still be growing by the way, the big blue blob got darker in its core in the last 2-3 hours again, does that mean more shear/stronger magnetic field/ more strength? Yeah, first interesting one in a while; I'm tracking it with the transition gifs on the drive (here), though still manually, will probably not work more on that until activity really starts ramping up good. There does seem to be hints of intermixing, but without any negative umbrae I would be hesitant to classify it as gamma. To me it still seems like just beta. As for the darkening on the m-gram, that does indeed indicate a stronger magnetic field strength, but not necessarily more shear. As I've mentioned previously I'm unaware of any readily available and reliable visual indications of shear, so if anyone knows of any that would be interesting to look at. That being said, seems like it's become a bit less dark again since you posted that (below gif is roughly ~30 hours): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Looks like sadly the section that Min circled is fading, as is the positive section to the east of the main negative spot. I'd love to see some re-development, but it looks like it's on the decline in terms of complexity at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3gMike Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Does anybody understand why the El Teide Magnetogram shows this region (and 3140) differently to all other stations ? Other regions seem to compare fairly well. I chose Hawaii as an arbitrary comparison, but it was updated at a similar time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 Does someone know if the fast radio emission is from the south east eruption or center disc? to me it looks like south region but idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, MinYoongi said: Does someone know if the fast radio emission is from the south east eruption or center disc? to me it looks like south region but idk Well I definitely seen material being ejected in the SE and I don't in the center disk, although there's a flare there too. So I'd say my guess is SE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farm24 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 On 11/8/2022 at 12:00 PM, 3gMike said: Does anybody understand why the El Teide Magnetogram shows this region (and 3140) differently to all other stations ? Other regions seem to compare fairly well. I chose Hawaii as an arbitrary comparison, but it was updated at a similar time. it could be a problem with the El Teide Magnetogram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Orneno said: Well I definitely seen material being ejected in the SE and I don't in the center disk, although there's a flare there too. So I'd say my guess is SE. ill look at EIT waves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 It looks like this region grew substantially since I last saw it, is that true? I don't see any deltas or particularly complex configurations, but I do like where this is going Too bad it's already facing Earth so it doesn't have too much time left to launch anything our way 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 It’s starting to evolve in a good way, so if trends continue it will likely pop when it’s on the limb again 😜 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceWeather5464 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: It’s starting to evolve in a good way, so if trends continue it will likely pop when it’s on the limb again 😜 Hopefully it pops at us before it leaves to the limb 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEAurora Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I’m a little excited about the rapid growth of negative region north of the main leader spot. Starting to see some smaller spots in the intensitygram as well. This would seem to represent something “delta-ish” if it keeps developing… I also seem to recall anecdotal evidence that sunspots with the 90 degree shifted north/south orientation instead of the normal east/west config are less stable and more prone to flaring. Alas, I do wholly expect this guy to rotate harmlessly around until it gets to the limb before absolutely unloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: it will likely pop when it’s on the limb again 😜 Don't give it an idea 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: It’s starting to evolve in a good way, so if trends continue it will likely pop when it’s on the limb again 😜 Shhhhhh please don’t say that you’re breaking my heart 😭😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Apparently this spot is delta, I don’t see one though. If it’s there it must be very small (or I’m just bad with magnetic classifications) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, Orneno said: Apparently this spot is delta, I don’t see one though. If it’s there it must be very small (or I’m just bad with magnetic classifications) Where does it say its delta? I dont see a delta. do you @Vancanneyt Sander or @Philalethes Bythos ? The Penumbras may touch a little bit but not a delta imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) PS : Sdo is updating very late today, also only every 2-3h...the weird part? Some wavelengths are offline for 4-5 hours now, others are updated every 15min Edited November 11, 2022 by MinYoongi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Spacex Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) On 11/8/2022 at 12:00 PM, 3gMike said: Does anybody understand why the El Teide Magnetogram shows this region (and 3140) differently to all other stations ? Other regions seem to compare fairly well. I chose Hawaii as an arbitrary comparison, but it was updated at a similar time. The image differences could be because they are observations at different wavelengths (630.2nm for Photosphere vs. 854.2nm for Chromosphere) or different magnetic field type (longitudinal wing vs. longitudinal core vs. vector). El Teide has background areas that look like HMI dopplergram features - a few incorrect images included in their image average perhaps? Edited November 11, 2022 by Drax Spacex dopplergram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, Drax Spacex said: The image differences could be because they are observations at different wavelengths (630.2nm for Photosphere vs. 854.2nm for Chromosphere) or different magnetic field type (longitudinal wing vs. longitudinal core vs. vector). But its the same Satellite so why is the magnetogram or certain wavelengths not updated? last update 7h ago that makes no sense to me.. magnetogram 3h ago well, back to topic. where is the delta supposed to be? " Region 3141 continued to be in a growth phase and formed a delta in the northernmost area of the Region." I dont really see it. honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Spacex Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Yeah it looks like an image processing error at the El Teide site in producing the averaged image. Features appear and disappear over large areas, e.g. upper right, Start 2022-11-09 End 2022-11-10 https://gong2.nso.edu/products/scaleView/view.php?configFile=configs/averageMagnetogram10min_860.cfg&productIndex=6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Drax Spacex said: Yeah it looks like an image processing error at the El Teide site in producing the averaged image. Features appear and disappear over large areas, e.g. upper right, Start 2022-11-09 End 2022-11-10 https://gong2.nso.edu/products/scaleView/view.php?configFile=configs/averageMagnetogram10min_860.cfg&productIndex=6 So you think thats why SDO is sometimes not updated? Last update some wavelengths was an hour ago, no Magneto/intensigram for 4h But that makes no sense, the last picture you linked is from 17:00/18:00 UTC but the last update was after that ah, you probably dont mean the SDO issue.. nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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