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My general understanding is that it just has to be opposite polarity within the same penumbra. With this region I think we have that twice.😄

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At least it looks alive compared to the previous sunsposts we had. Let's see. 

Right down the center of the HMI pics too @Adohran if I am not mistaken we also have a nice magnetic shear line development.  This is typically a sign of very nice explosions we love to see,  especially when the sun is about to spew mass in our direction 🤣

I suppose a delta could be the analogy of a bad marriage with the resulting divorce heading our way in the form of remnants.   😇

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6 minutes ago, hamateur 1953 said:

Right down the center of the HMI pics too @Adohran if I am not mistaken we also have a nice magnetic shear line development.  This is typically a sign of very nice explosions we love to see,  especially when the sun is about to spew mass in our direction 🤣

That could also be one. I highlighted it in the image as well, although I was a bit unsure. Bit if you also think that it is a delta I'm more confident in it being one. 

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That could also be one. I highlighted it in the image as well, although I was a bit unsure. Bit if you also think that it is a delta I'm more confident in it being one. 

Although I gotta admit I'm not too into how shear works and what it is, might need a small crash course for it 😂

@WildWill who passed away last year and me were in full agreement on at least one thing regarding deltas ( at least as far as we interpret them from HMI renderings).  If it ain’t performing as a delta should, it probably ain’t a delta at all.   Paraphrasing using his unique language. Incidentally the late WW did synoptics for the USAF if I am not mistaken. he is still missed by this armed Yankee. Haha. What a character!! 

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21 minutes ago, hamateur 1953 said:

If it ain’t performing as a delta should, it probably ain’t a delta at all.

That's something I can definitely get behind. 

AR13738 just got updated to BGD

To sum up my opinion regarding your encircled HMI posting:  you nailed the producing delta centermost and also what I believe to be a magnetic shear line beginning it’s development.   I also think I see overall growth in this AR   Good news for sure!   

Off-topic briefly regarding shear lines.  
the halloween storms video again imo has the most information ( devoid of protracted discussion) including magnetic shear lines that I have seen to this date.  And I read a horrific amount of stuff!   10486 had multiple shear lines as have the “ big boys” of this cycle.  
@Philalethes posted a really cool vector magnetogram of 10486 some time back with arrows depicting the fascinating flows within that active region.   An interesting bit of history for certain!! 

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Remembering stuff pertaining to shear

20 minutes ago, hamateur 1953 said:

@Philalethes posted a really cool vector magnetogram of 10486 some time back with arrows depicting the fascinating flows within that active region.   An interesting bit of history for certain!! 

This post, presumably; definitely really cool to see the long field lines along the borders there.

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Yes. @Philalethes  Thank you yet again!  And it predated the change in Gauss to Tesla as far as magnetics go if anyone is wondering what the heck “ G” is.   And also as @Philalethes noted the polarization colours are a bit more “ conventional “.   Conventions even within a particular area of study can be especially confusing.   🤣🤣🤣

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UPT is bad enough! Help me. 🤣🤣

I'd like to see the shear imagery of this region. Who was it that was posting those or does anyone have a link to the tool that was producing them?

Are these flares eruptive? I can't tell, if they're then they might be good

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28 minutes ago, cgrant26 said:

I'd like to see the shear imagery of this region. Who was it that was posting those or does anyone have a link to the tool that was producing them?

The vector magnetograms for the different SHARPs can be found here; this would be part of 10338 (or just 0338 for short).

It's not that exciting for this one though. Generally there will be a correspondence between large squeezed-together deltas and higher shear, so you can typically get an idea from just looking at the regular magnetograms whether there is a lot of shear or not, but it's of course great to have the more detailed imagery for a closer look.

16 minutes ago, Manuel said:

Are these flares eruptive? I can't tell, if they're then they might be good

Doesn't seem that way.

7 hours ago, MinYoongi said:

I dont know where you see "clear separation" because in the middle of the region there is clear gamma mixing. And by now even a small delta.

but the gamma was there at the time of your writing 😄 to me thats not organized. it developed quite a bit!

Yeah I missed that! It was of weak intensity at the time of writing, I think that’s why I skipped it. And now I wake up to a beautiful delta. Next time I’ll double chefk before saying something, whoops

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9 minutes ago, chronical said:

Yeah I missed that! It was of weak intensity at the time of writing, I think that’s why I skipped it. And now I wake up to a beautiful delta. Next time I’ll double chefk before saying something, whoops

Your sleep did wake it up :D 

Been inactive due to a crochet project that I'm aggressively trying to finish but nice to see this region giving us a nice delta as well as a few flares.

 

Hopefully it keeps up the action and can go a bit more eruptive/bigger with the flares 

A large Earth directed CME would go down quite nicely

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30 minutes ago, Sagatha said:

Been inactive due to a crochet project that I'm aggressively trying to finish but nice to see this region giving us a nice delta as well as a few flares.

A magnetic crochet project, I hope.

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48 minutes ago, MinYoongi said:

as if?

 

1 hour ago, Manuel said:

Are these flares eruptive? I can't tell, if they're then they might be good

Misread that as impulsive xd That's what my message meant just forgot the quote

Also seems like a good time to change the notification settings to M5 or above with this many low level M-Flares 

1 hour ago, Philalethes said:

A magnetic crochet project, I hope.

Ok @Philalethes  Tamitha Skov may scold you for triggering dem Magnetic Mines!*!  🤣🤣🤣

It really would be cool to have a couple of deltas smooshed* together!

 

*smooshed means extremely close proximity of objects who normally don’t get along well with anyone. Kinda like me holding two cats without a shirt on trying in vain to bathe them both.  Not advised.  * magnetic mines refers to Aug 4 1972 when allegedly 10,000 subsurface magnetic mines were triggered by the particularly unusual magnetic signature (crochet) pattern of that series of strong pulses.  See Wikipedia if curious 

2 hours ago, Manuel said:

Are these flares eruptive? I can't tell, if they're then they might be good

I just looked at the latest modeling @Manuel  it doesn’t look good for us. But more are likely to come as this region seems to still be in a growth process. 

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Incompatibility. And references

Has delta already gone?

Oh, it was a glitch

 

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28 minutes ago, Ukrspotter said:

Has delta already gone?

Oh, it was a glitch

 

Den you scared me for a second. Had to double check the data just in case 😂 

1 hour ago, hamateur 1953 said:

Ok @Philalethes  Tamitha Skov may scold you for triggering dem Magnetic Mines!*!  🤣🤣🤣

It really would be cool to have a couple of deltas smooshed* together!

 

*smooshed means extremely close proximity of objects who normally don’t get along well with anyone. Kinda like me holding two cats without a shirt on trying in vain to bathe them both.  Not advised.  * magnetic mines refers to Aug 4 1972 when allegedly 10,000 subsurface magnetic mines were triggered by the particularly unusual magnetic signature (crochet) pattern of that series of strong pulses.  See Wikipedia if curious 

I just looked at the latest modeling @Manuel  it doesn’t look good for us. But more are likely to come as this region seems to still be in a growth process. 

Let's hope that! Finger crossed 😁😁

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