Is There An Electromagnetic Wave Cyclically Occuring Every Two Weeks Whichs Lasts For A Day Or Two?

[Circacadoo]

Hi there,

as the title suggests, I am looking for any kind of electromagnetic wave (solar or earth) that has a cyclical nature and hits us around every two weeks for a day or two. Alternatively, the frequency may be higher, but with significant spikes around every two weeks.

In advance Thank you very much!

Edited March 11, 2023 by Circacadoo
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[hamateur 1953]

May I ask how you are recording this apparent cyclical wave?  If electromagnetic, many methods of displaying it for us to better understand it exist.  Tnx. Mike/ Hagrid 

[helios]

Electromagnetic waves can be easily detected and measured, I think you need to give us a bit more information what you think of.

There are radio broadcast stations which are only active on the weekends. Some of them perhaps only every two weeks.

[Circacadoo]

9 hours ago, hamateur 1953 said:

May I ask how you are recording this apparent cyclical wave?  If electromagnetic, many methods of displaying it for us to better understand it exist.  Tnx. Mike/ Hagrid 

Well, that's a bit delicate. It's my body. With a high degree of regularity, I feel like a truck hit me around every 12 days. For seemingly no reason, I'm barely able to leave the bed, unable to speak or think properly and with a massive brain fog. Along with that my bio data goes haywire for no reason and my nerves become very sensitive. No pain though. The only thing that I can do on those days is to stay in bed and do nothing. After a day it's usually gone again, but I'm still rattled. Rarely it takes half of a 2nd day, while I can't remember when it didn't happen.

I've seen from other threads that this electromagnetic wave <-> health topic is not popular on this board, but I kind of ran out of options what else it may be. That's why I am willing to entertain fringe explanations, of which the one with sferics or in general electromagnetic waves is now on the table to check for plausibility. That's why I am here. If it's not this, next on my list is the moon. In case you have other suggestions, I am open to hear it out.

Bottom line: You don't have to believe me. All you need is some kindness to help out a stranger, or in an even better case the curiosity about what phenomenon may be occurring around every two weeks and especially run through Continental Europe. I don't know how it is elsewhere, I haven't left the continent, yet. Again: Thanks in advance!

Edited March 12, 2023 by Circacadoo

[Jesterface23]

Given what you said, you should really find a doctor or specialist. It may help them if you record what is occurring.

This isn't a medical forum, it is a space weather forum. Hopefully you find out what is going on and can resolve everything.

[hamateur 1953]

Well you are not alone in experiencing cyclic variations.  A woman once posted here that her mammary glands bothered her during conditions of low KP levels. Not kidding.  As a dude I was more than a little apprehensive about replying as you might imagine!! Most people these days on this site anyway are more concerned with verifiable statistics as far as radio communication and visible aurora.  Hopefully you find a good doc and get some assistance.  Good luck. Mike/ Hagrid. ( Big cat). 

4 hours ago, Circacadoo said:

Well, that's a bit delicate. It's my body. With a high degree of regularity, I feel like a truck hit me around every 12 days. For seemingly no reason, I'm barely able to leave the bed, unable to speak or think properly and with a massive brain fog. Along with that my bio data goes haywire for no reason and my nerves become very sensitive. No pain though. The only thing that I can do on those days is to stay in bed and do nothing. After a day it's usually gone again, but I'm still rattled. Rarely it takes half of a 2nd day, while I can't remember when it didn't happen.

I've seen from other threads that this electromagnetic wave <-> health topic is not popular on this board, but I kind of ran out of options what else it may be. That's why I am willing to entertain fringe explanations, of which the one with sferics or in general electromagnetic waves is now on the table to check for plausibility. That's why I am here. If it's not this, next on my list is the moon. In case you have other suggestions, I am open to hear it out.

Bottom line: You don't have to believe me. All you need is some kindness to help out a stranger, or in an even better case the curiosity about what phenomenon may be occurring around every two weeks and especially run through Continental Europe. I don't know how it is elsewhere, I haven't left the continent, yet. Again: Thanks in advance!

 

[helios]

It is difficult to find the cause with such complex symptoms.

The effects of electromagnetic radiation on living beings is very well researched and I am not aware of anything like what you've described in this regard.
I've been exposed to EM fields well beyond recommended limits over a wide frequency range and never experienced anything like that.

But if you have bio data which confirm your condition, you should be able to find a medical expert who could figure out what it is.
To me it sounds like migraine without headache (which exists), but I'm not a health professional.

[Circacadoo]

16 hours ago, Jesterface23 said:

Given what you said, you should really find a doctor or specialist. It may help them if you record what is occurring.

Thanks for your advice. I already do have a specialist since quite some time. He told me that he can't do much more than to mediate my symptoms (I have prescriptions for stuff you normally only get on really good techno parties..). He also advised me to keep researching myself and look out for "alternative medical explanations", because some of them have to be taken seriously.

16 hours ago, Jesterface23 said:

This isn't a medical forum, it is a space weather forum. Hopefully you find out what is going on and can resolve everything.

Yes, I am aware of that. My idea was that there might be some regularity in sun spots or the sun's or some other celestial body's magnetosphere that occurs every other week and then radiates in direction of earth one way or another. You know, like the moon switching between reflecting all and no light every two weeks.

I came here because I have zero expertise in astronomy and it's just not worth (yet) to dig into a rather complex topic just for a cursory test for some fringe hypothesis what may be wrong with my health for a day every other week.

13 hours ago, hamateur 1953 said:

Well you are not alone in experiencing cyclic variations.  A woman once posted here that her mammary glands bothered her during conditions of low KP levels. Not kidding.  As a dude I was more than a little apprehensive about replying as you might imagine!! Most people these days on this site anyway are more concerned with verifiable statistics as far as radio communication and visible aurora.  Hopefully you find a good doc and get some assistance.  Good luck. Mike/ Hagrid. ( Big cat).

Thanks for that understanding reply. I think there's maybe something in that direction in my case as well.

I looked up this KP thing here on the website and clicked myself through to GFZ Potsdam's data page. Can you tell me where I can find the documentation for the tables, or which values belong to which columns? What do all the acronyms mean besides Kp?

8 hours ago, helios said:

It is difficult to find the cause with such complex symptoms.

The effects of electromagnetic radiation on living beings is very well researched and I am not aware of anything like what you've described in this regard.
I've been exposed to EM fields well beyond recommended limits over a wide frequency range and never experienced anything like that.

But if you have bio data which confirm your condition, you should be able to find a medical expert who could figure out what it is.
To me it sounds like migraine without headache (which exists), but I'm not a health professional.

Thanks for your input. What kind of medical expert would you recommend? My neurologist told me to look into the area of alternative medicine, but couldn't give me much more than the confidence that some of that deserves some recognition.

I am aware of migraines with no headache and I do have auras which - subjectively, didn't count it, yet - do coincide with bad days. My interpretation would be that they may be another (mild) symptom, but not the cause for my regular dysfunctionality.

[Jesterface23]

Specifically for the Sun, I don't think there would be time patterns that match.

You searching for answers is perfectly fine. Your specialist still better be searching too, or you should try and find a new one. Looking to get opinions from other doctors or specialists in the meantime would be good to do either way. I have have a family member that has a pretty messed up medical history and I don't even know how many doctors or specialists they have gone through, but did eventually get answers. 

[helios]

1 hour ago, Circacadoo said:

hat kind of medical expert would you recommend?

I don't know what kind of diagnostics have been done and what your possibilities are. I'd head out to the best department of neurology I could find in the country, perhaps at an university hospital.

Geomagnetic and other astronomical effects are minuscule on earth surface, barely detectable by the most sensitive instruments.
There will be no (scientifically) provable connection to your health issues. I can't help with unscientific claims.

[Circacadoo]

21 hours ago, Jesterface23 said:

Specifically for the Sun, I don't think there would be time patterns that match.

What is with earth's magnetic field? I imagine that the magnetic field is influenced by both the sun and the moon. Does the position of the moon show up on instruments measuring earth's magnetic field?

 

20 hours ago, helios said:

I don't know what kind of diagnostics have been done and what your possibilities are. I'd head out to the best department of neurology I could find in the country, perhaps at an university hospital.

That is on my list. There's a university not far away where they've tested weather sensitivity. Turns out there's something on it, although they say the same about air pressure as you say about astronomical effects. Maybe they also know about astronomical influences.

 

20 hours ago, helios said:

Geomagnetic and other astronomical effects are minuscule on earth surface, barely detectable by the most sensitive instruments.
There will be no (scientifically) provable connection to your health issues. I can't help with unscientific claims.

Birds and other animals do notice the geomagnetic field and changes in it very much. Why not also some humans?

 

[helios]

2 hours ago, Circacadoo said:

Birds and other animals do notice the geomagnetic field and changes in it very much. Why not also some humans?

That would end up in a long discussion, which I'm not willing to take 😉 

But the idea can be disproved otherwise:
Metallic objects and electric currents in your room have a much bigger influence on the local (geo)magnetic field, compared to the strongest astronomical events. Thus it's pointless to look for astronomical events.

It's impossible to detect a geomagnetic storm inside an inhabited house. Sensors have to be located far away from buildings, power lines, electric devices. Example:
"it normally is installed at a remote location and buried in the ground. We are aware of sensor installations greater than 60 m from the SAM-III processor." https://www.reeve.com/SAMDescription.htm

[Circacadoo]

38 minutes ago, helios said:

Metallic objects and electric currents in your room have a much bigger influence on the local (geo)magnetic field, compared to the strongest astronomical events. Thus it's pointless to look for astronomical events.

Would you then argue that birds lose their senses as well when they are inside a building or cage or when there is a radio mast nearby?

[Jesterface23]

6 hours ago, Circacadoo said:

What is with earth's magnetic field? I imagine that the magnetic field is influenced by both the sun and the moon. Does the position of the moon show up on instruments measuring earth's magnetic field?

The Sun has an influence, but there is no pattern with the IMF to the point of pretty much being unforecastable. The Moon has a 27 day orbit. You can try looking that up with Earth's magnetosphere, but I don't see anything that may be able to fit with the timing.

[Circacadoo]

11 hours ago, Jesterface23 said:

The Moon has a 27 day orbit. You can try looking that up with Earth's magnetosphere, but I don't see anything that may be able to fit with the timing.

Is there a regularity in earth's magnetic field regarding the relative position of the moon and to the sun? I imagine the field being shaped differently during full moon as the moon is in a different relative position than during new moon. In consequence, the solar radiation can penetrate earth's atmosphere differently.

The moon's 27 day orbit of the moon would fit relatively well with my 12-13 cycle, especially if you assume that waning and waxing phases are relatively comparable in terms of the moon's relative position.

[Jesterface23]

1 hour ago, Circacadoo said:

Is there a regularity in earth's magnetic field regarding the relative position of the moon and to the sun? I imagine the field being shaped differently during full moon as the moon is in a different relative position than during new moon. In consequence, the solar radiation can penetrate earth's atmosphere differently.

The moon's 27 day orbit of the moon would fit relatively well with my 12-13 cycle, especially if you assume that waning and waxing phases are relatively comparable in terms of the moon's relative position.

I'm not exactly sure what the moon would have to contribute. Though thinking on dates, a new and full moon would be in the 27 day cycles. The only thing that may be in parallel would be the first and third quarter phase, having similar conditions and splitting the 27 day cycle in two.

[Circacadoo]

23 hours ago, Jesterface23 said:

I'm not exactly sure what the moon would have to contribute.

Well, the moon influences earth's magnetic field, doesn't it? It may not have an own magnetic field, but its gravitation is enough to move earth's inner core around with the latter being responsible for the shape and strength of earth's magnetic field.

That's at least what I caught from occasional popular scientific astronomical explanations...

 

23 hours ago, Jesterface23 said:

Though thinking on dates, a new and full moon would be in the 27 day cycles. The only thing that may be in parallel would be the first and third quarter phase, having similar conditions and splitting the 27 day cycle in two.

Yes, that is what is on my fringe radar. I have repeatedly observed in the past and also recently that there is a strange congruence with the positions that I have marked with red circles. If the depiction below is accurate, then there may be something geometrical involved that puts earth's magnetic core into a position where the sun or solar wind have a different/stronger effect on some stuff on earth. This either directly or indirectly influences my well being negatively.

Problem is that I have little knowledge about physics & astronomy and the theory is so far out there, I wouldn't even know how to prove/disprove it. All I see is that there's a strange cyclical regularity that I can not only feel, but also observe in changes in my bio data.

 

[Archmonoth]

On 3/15/2023 at 6:11 AM, Circacadoo said:

Well, the moon influences earth's magnetic field, doesn't it? It may not have an own magnetic field, but its gravitation is enough to move earth's inner core around with the latter being responsible for the shape and strength of earth's magnetic field.

That's at least what I caught from occasional popular scientific astronomical explanations...

The Lunar Effect is a myth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_effect

On 3/15/2023 at 6:11 AM, Circacadoo said:

Problem is that I have little knowledge about physics & astronomy and the theory is so far out there, I wouldn't even know how to prove/disprove it. All I see is that there's a strange cyclical regularity that I can not only feel, but also observe in changes in my bio data.

Like others have said, a physician is who you should be talking to. A specialist, a CT scan, something to illuminate what is going on inside might better serve you than speculating on space weather. 

[Circacadoo]

18 hours ago, Archmonoth said:

The Lunar Effect is a myth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_effect

I may have overlooked something, but your claim is not backed by the content behind the link.

18 hours ago, Archmonoth said:

Like others have said, a physician is who you should be talking to. A specialist, a CT scan, something to illuminate what is going on inside might better serve you than speculating on space weather. 

Well, you may have overlooked that, but the steps you are recommending have already been taken.

 

PS: I just found someone who has observed a 6 week rhythm with very similar symptoms.

[Archmonoth]

2 hours ago, Circacadoo said:

I may have overlooked something, but your claim is not backed by the content behind the link.

Directly from the link with 4 verified sources:

"By the late 1980s, there were at least 40 published studies on the purported lunar-lunacy connection, and at least 20 published studies on the purported lunar-birthrate connection. Literature reviews and metanalyses have found no correlation between the lunar cycle and human biology or behavior"

 

There isn't even a correlation, let alone causation. 

 

I understand you are looking for answers, and there will be many answers. Could be a virus, could be your paycheck cycle, could be a deep psychological desire to find patterns and meaning in your life. I could guess endlessly.

 

In your journey of discovery and investigation, how would you decide when something ISN'T the cause? 

 

For starters, I would recommend eliminating any topic on this list as a cause of your symptoms: List of topics characterized as pseudoscience - Wikipedia