David Silver Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 The Fredericksburg, Virginia station is closest to my location. Today the NOAA forecasts seem quite off, while Fredericksburg is spiking at KP9. I’ve never seen such a disparity between the KP charts before. Initially checked them because I am solar sensitive and woke up affected today w typical geomagnetic-induced migraine in both temples, head pressure, and very loud ringing. Anyone else interested in this odd KP disparity today? See attached. Also I was happy to discover this weather site which includes forecasts for us unlucky Meteo and Solar sensitive people: https://world-weather.info/forecast/usa/harwich/biometeorology/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Are you sure it’s not like KP -9? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Can you see the attachment? It has been KP0 a lot this week, and does return to KP0 after that spike. But I’m hoping more insightful serious answers about the charts today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) I would be a station index of K9. Kp is the planetary index. It certainly looks like a glitch. The geomagnetometer public data feed is down starting mid-day on the 17th, so I wonder if that has something to do with it. Edited October 23, 2022 by Jesterface23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Spacex Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 42 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said: I would be a station index of K9. Kp is the planetary index. It certainly looks like a glitch. The geomagnetometer public data feed is down starting mid-day on the 17th, so I wonder if that has something to do with it. Must be a glitch. This can happen if the feed overloads the data value with status information (like 999 or -999) meant to convey it is invalid data and should not be used. It's generally better to have a data status field separate from the actual data field with a well-written data description document. Old school computer science stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 23, 2022 Author Share Posted October 23, 2022 Since the charts updated, the others show a G1 taking place currently. Since Fredericksburg is the primary station in the US, used by the Airforce, NOAA and others, I’m surprised it could be a low-tech “glitch” in 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivica Angel Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 I'm in the same geographic area, and I can attest to experiencing some severe physical sensitivity issues as well. I certainly cant believe this one to be a "glitch". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 Given the public data went offline on the 17th and the FRD chart doesn't look quite right since then, two and two can be put together that the K9 isn't correct. And K9 to K0 to K9, any red flags? Noting that Boulder and Fredericksburg use the same nT fluctuations to get an index. K1: 5nT K2: 10nT K3: 20nT K4: 40nT K5: 70nT K6: 120nT K7: 200nT K8: 330nT K9: 500nT+ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solarflaretracker200 Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, David Silver said: I’m surprised it could be a low-tech “glitch” in 2022. Well technology isn’t perfect lol Edited October 23, 2022 by Solarflaretracker200 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Vivica Angel said: I'm in the same geographic area, and I can attest to experiencing some severe physical sensitivity issues as well. I certainly cant believe this one to be a "glitch". It is, that’s not how Earth’s magnetosphere works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 A week long malfunction might as well be a better way of saying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Well there wasnt a KP9 on the 22nd and there wasnt one today so that should prove its a glitch right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 minute ago, MinYoongi said: Well there wasnt a KP9 on the 22nd and there wasnt one today so that should prove its a glitch right? It’s K, not KP, but it’s still a glitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivica Angel Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 There's been a lot of geoelectric spikes in that area as well... https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/geoelectric-field-1-minute-empirical-emtf-3d-model 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Vivica Angel said: There's been a lot of geoelectric spikes in that area as well... https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/geoelectric-field-1-minute-empirical-emtf-3d-model You can get crazy results when you put errored data in to run a model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 The same error giving multiple other errors downstream doesn’t confirm that it wasn’t an error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Silver Posted October 24, 2022 Author Share Posted October 24, 2022 Yes, of course it looks like a glitch, and no high KP resulted yesterday beyond the 4.5 seen on other charts. Questions though: 1. @Jesterface23mentioned that Fredericksburg public data went down on the 17th, can you provide a url where I can follow that directly? 2. @Ornenodo we know that the Frederickburg data is coinjoined with the Geoelectric Field display or is that speculation? In general, Ive seen they tend to be out of sync somewhat, as ground induced currents are a 'lag measure' happening somewhat later as the result of electric forcing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, David Silver said: @Jesterface23mentioned that Fredericksburg public data went down on the 17th, can you provide a url where I can follow that directly? You can find the geomag data below for Fredericksburg, Boulder, and College. The H or D (Not D. It may have actually been E which currently isn't available) components are used, whichever has the highest fluctuation from the quiet day curve. https://geomag.usgs.gov/plots/?stations=BOU&stations=FRD&stations=CMO&timeRangeType=custom&channels=H&endTime=2022-10-24T14:31:00.000Z&startTime=2022-10-16T00:00:00.000Z Edited October 24, 2022 by Jesterface23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Spacex Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) It appears the Fredericksburg H component (FRDH) became squirrelly starting on 2022-10-17 14:45:00.000 when it began reporting a value of 99999.00, which is probably the encoding in the case of no data or invalid data.* Observatory Fredericksburg Download IAGA-2002 DATE TIME DOY FRDH FRDNUL FRDNUL FRDNUL 2022-10-17 14:44:00.000 290 21626.73 99999.00 99999.00 99999.00 2022-10-17 14:45:00.000 290 99999.00 99999.00 99999.00 99999.00 ... 2022-10-24 14:31:00.000 297 99999.00 99999.00 99999.00 99999.00 *Per the IAGA-2002 standard, 99999 indicates missing data: https://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/IAGA/vdat/IAGA2002/iaga2002format.html Edited October 24, 2022 by Drax Spacex IAGA-2002 standard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 24, 2022 Share Posted October 24, 2022 Well, the public data was cut off at that point. The SWPC must be using a different data feed or FRD would have K0 across the board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlikeAuroras Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 1:00 PM, Jesterface23 said: I would be a station index of K9. Kp is the planetary index. It certainly looks like a glitch. The geomagnetometer public data feed is down starting mid-day on the 17th, so I wonder if that has something to do with it. It was probably affected by a gamma ray burst 2.4 billion light years away that struck us with the most powerful wave of radiation ever recorded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 54 minutes ago, IlikeAuroras said: It was probably affected by a gamma ray burst 2.4 billion light years away that struck us with the most powerful wave of radiation ever recorded. Some of the stations go down every once in a while. They just don't all have their K-indices put on a chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ograo Barracuda Posted October 25, 2022 Share Posted October 25, 2022 On 10/23/2022 at 2:16 PM, David Silver said: The Fredericksburg, Virginia station is closest to my location. Today the NOAA forecasts seem quite off, while Fredericksburg is spiking at KP9. I’ve never seen such a disparity between the KP charts before. Initially checked them because I am solar sensitive and woke up affected today w typical geomagnetic-induced migraine in both temples, head pressure, and very loud ringing. Anyone else interested in this odd KP disparity today? See attached. Also I was happy to discover this weather site which includes forecasts for us unlucky Meteo and Solar sensitive people: https://world-weather.info/forecast/usa/harwich/biometeorology/ Yeap, I've seen something unusual in my favorite Space Weather app, Magnetic Storms, with A index going crazy only for Mid Latitudes, and after some research, I've found this post. Thanx for the post, so I know I'm not getting crazy alone... Best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution hamateur 1953 Posted November 7, 2022 Solution Share Posted November 7, 2022 Every time I get my hopes up It is a glitch!! My tesla coil is down, generating an aurora just takes too darn much power or Id find a way although I might need a flux capacitor and a Delorean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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