farm24 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 the solar protons increased alot at 6:00 UTC (see pic) it also coincided with the type 2 halo CME (see other pic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Vancanneyt Sander Posted March 21, 2022 Solution Share Posted March 21, 2022 Farside eruption and Parker spiral effect 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farm24 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: Farside eruption and Parker spiral effect that had to have been a powerful CME to increase the solar protons by that much from over the limb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, farm24 said: that had to have been a powerful CME to increase the solar protons by that much from over the limb It looked like a powerful one, and fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 38 minuten geleden, farm24 zei: that had to have been a powerful CME to increase the solar protons by that much from over the limb Yes, only strong long duration eruptive events are capable of that. too bad it wasn’t on the frontside… it would have become the strongest proton event of SC25 😜 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farm24 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: Yes, only strong long duration eruptive events are capable of that. too bad it wasn’t on the frontside… it would have become the strongest proton event of SC25 😜 possibly even the strongest flare of SC25 (so far) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, farm24 said: possibly even the strongest flare of SC25 (so far) Doubt it, that would probably be the super strong far side CME from behind the NE limb some time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 11 minuten geleden, Orneno zei: Doubt it, that would probably be the super strong far side CME from behind the NE limb some time ago But it’s farside so we’ll never know 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: But it’s farside so we’ll never know 😇 L3 spacecraft when??? 😇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farm24 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 48 minutes ago, Orneno said: L3 spacecraft when??? 😇 Maybe they can just use the thrusters on SoLo (if it has any) to kick it into L3 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 uur terug, farm24 zei: Maybe they can just use the thrusters on SoLo (if it has any) to kick it into L3 lol Let’s keep SOHO where it is, old and outdated 😉 it also won’t have the fuel to do such manoeuvre (at launch SOHO had 251kg fuel). SOHO does have thrusters to keep it in position, it doesn’t use its three gyroscopes anymore due to a malfunction in 1998 where we nearly lost the satellite (after the incident and regaining control it had 205kg of fuel left, about 4kg was needed to regain control). Shortly after a second anomaly occurred (end of 1998) that was again corrected by its thrusters (52 kilo of fuel was burned to achieve the expected result) early 1999. Where +20 years later so I guess fuel is getting low😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Hang in there SOHO! It’s been a superstar trooper. I hope we get a fitting replacement up there soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isatsuki San Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 hours ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: Erupción del lado lejano y efecto espiral de Parker here is an image advertising on twitter by halo cme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 7 uren geleden, Orneno zei: Hang in there SOHO! It’s been a superstar trooper. I hope we get a fitting replacement up there soon. SDO was the replacement but they “forgot” to add a coronagraph 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: SDO was the replacement but they “forgot” to add a coronagraph 😉 Let me guess, budget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farm24 Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 hours ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: SDO was the replacement but they “forgot” to add a coronagraph 😉 atleast GOES-U will have one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Warfel Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, farm24 said: atleast GOES-U will have one A good one like SOHO, or a horrible one like STEREO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW2P Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 17 hours ago, Orneno said: Hang in there SOHO! It’s been a superstar trooper. I hope we get a fitting replacement up there soon. Unfortunately not. I think we need a whole lot more solar observation platforms up there. After all, the sun is the most interesting and exciting thing going on in the solar system. So about a month ago I did a deep dive to see what future spacecraft were coming that I can look forward to. The answer? Nil, nix, nada, zilch. Not only are there no interesting spacecraft being built and scheduled for launch in the future, I couldn't even find proposals. So it will be years before we have any better instruments than what we have now. 😡 If anyone knows otherwise, I'd like to hear about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Not totally true, every few years there’s a new GOES satellite with some solar instruments on board (SUVI, x-ray) and one of the next-gen GOES satellites will have a new coronagraph which will become the replacement for the LASCO instrument (planned for 2024 and currently Lockheed Martin is installing it onboard GOES-U). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 22 hours ago, Orneno said: L3 spacecraft when??? 😇 What do we want? L3! When do we want it? All year! :0 2 hours ago, KW2P said: Unfortunately not. I think we need a whole lot more solar observation platforms up there. After all, the sun is the most interesting and exciting thing going on in the solar system. So about a month ago I did a deep dive to see what future spacecraft were coming that I can look forward to. The answer? Nil, nix, nada, zilch. Not only are there no interesting spacecraft being built and scheduled for launch in the future, I couldn't even find proposals. So it will be years before we have any better instruments than what we have now. 😡 If anyone knows otherwise, I'd like to hear about it. James Webb telescope will be providing some interesting sights here soon. Hopefully it inspires some people to get something built. Edited March 22, 2022 by Archmonoth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: Not totally true, every few years there’s a new GOES satellite with some solar instruments on board (SUVI, x-ray) and one of the next-gen GOES satellites will have a new coronagraph which will become the replacement for the LASCO instrument (planned for 2024 and currently Lockheed Martin is installing it onboard GOES-U). But do we poor dirtsiders in Europe getting direct access to GOES data? No we don't! All we get is GOES data via internet from NASA/NOAA. I wish the Europeans would get onboard to publish downlink protocol and frequencies for their weather satellites and more importantly also add solar observation instruments to the next satellites going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carfteh Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 big-ish sunspot on the farside of the sun shown on GONG's website. Sdo didnt update their farside data in a while so im using this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farm24 Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, carfteh said: big-ish sunspot on the farside of the sun shown on GONG's website. Sdo didnt update their farside data in a while so im using this The SDO website ones are broken use this http://jsoc.stanford.edu/data/farside/ the GONG images are unreliable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW2P Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 1:28 PM, Archmonoth said: What do we want? L3! When do we want it? All year! :0 James Webb telescope will be providing some interesting sights here soon. Hopefully it inspires some people to get something built. Yes, there are a lot of things going on in space exploration and probes, but I was talking about solar observation, as I stated at the start of my reply. What's going on with the Webb is fantastic, almost unbelievable, but the Webb will certainly never observe the sun. It's good that GOES sats have solar observation instruments, but I was referring to specific solar probes. I find it astonishing that we still don't have continuous high-res observation of the far side of the sun yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonoth Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 11 hours ago, KW2P said: ...but the Webb will certainly never observe the sun. Well perhaps we can see the high-res surfaces of other stars. 11 hours ago, KW2P said: I find it astonishing that we still don't have continuous high-res observation of the far side of the sun yet. Astonished you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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