So this is not old 3664?

25 minutes ago, MinYoongi said:

So this is not old 3664?

Nope. Old region 3664 is still to come right behind this region.

18 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said:

Nope. Old region 3664 is still to come right behind this region.

Excellent!  Making June another epic month keeping us happy!! 

@Misaka  would you mind posting a link to STIX?  Appreciate it ifya would. Tnx. Mike. 

This might be all of region 3723. The polarities are unclear due to being very close to the limb, but the center of the region looks to be the most complex part,

1 hour ago, hamateur 1953 said:

Excellent!  Making June another epic month keeping us happy!! 

@Misaka  would you mind posting a link to STIX?  Appreciate it ifya would. Tnx. Mike. 

https://datacenter.stix.i4ds.net/view/flares/list

26 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said:

This might be all of region 3723. The polarities are unclear due to being very close to the limb, but the center of the region looks to be the most complex part,

great info jester, thank you

1 hour ago, Jesterface23 said:

This might be all of region 3723. The polarities are unclear due to being very close to the limb, but the center of the region looks to be the most complex part,

Just saw this on X, which appears to be imagery from SolO's EUI, showing this region popping up in front of old 3664/3697:

I guess the better question is how separate this smaller region really is, or to what extent it's part of the same complex.

1 hour ago, Philalethes said:

Just saw this on X, which appears to be imagery from SolO's EUI, showing this region popping up in front of old 3664/3697:

I guess the better question is how separate this smaller region really is, or to what extent it's part of the same complex.

Whatever it is, it is most certainly active looking briefly at solar soft.  Indeed we have lots ofactivity soon in both solar hemispheres. Edit:   Most of the high activity past the limb seems to be South  19-20. Corresponds pretty well to our returning infamous region. 

Edited June 23, 20241 yr by hamateur 1953
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8 hours ago, Jesterface23 said:

Region 3723 had developed on the far side. Old region 3664/3697 has not yet come over the limb. It will within the next 24 hours though.

Interesting - SolarHam and SpaceWeather.com both had 3723 listed as the old 3697 and SolarHam still does 😮😮 - sorry I trusted those sources 🤷

8 hours ago, Marcel de Bont said:

For real? I just made a news article about the return of 3664 when I saw this post. I trusted you @Justanerd 😉🤣 Damn it, I really miss when we had STEREO A and B on the far side!

Sorry! My sources can no longer be trusted! Buh bye SolarHam and spaceweather.com 🙅‍♂️

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by Justanerd

6 minutes ago, Justanerd said:

Interesting - SolarHam and SpaceWeatherlive both had 3723 listed as the old 3697 and SolarHam still does 😮😮 - sorry I trusted those sources 🤷

No kidding?  SolarHam recently changed a lot in the format too. Yup. He lists 3723 as returning 3697 indeed.  Everyone screws up at some point if jester and Philalethes are correct in the longitudinal stuff that is and they probably are.  No biggie. More area equals more activity we hope!  

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by hamateur 1953
Checked solar ham

6 minutes ago, hamateur 1953 said:

No kidding?  SolarHam recently changed a lot in the format too. 

16 minutes ago, Justanerd said:

Interesting - SolarHam and SpaceWeatherlive both had 3723 listed as the old 3697 and SolarHam still does 😮😮 - sorry I trusted those sources 🤷

Eh, mistakes happen, and it is a very anticipated returning region. The SWPC did word it a little different, "This new region is believed to be the newest iteration of old Regions 3664 and 3697."

But,

 

3 uren geleden, Jesterface23 zei:

Eh, mistakes happen, and it is a very anticipated returning region. The SWPC did word it a little different, "This new region is believed to be the newest iteration of old Regions 3664 and 3697."

But,

 

I see old 3654 and 3664...

So is it or is it not?

This all is it 3664 or is it not got me confused like a lot. So is it already on the earth facing disk or do we have to be a bit more patient? 

They do seem to have less or more the same place!?

It seems like it is old ar3664/ar3697 but I feel like @Jesterface23 is correct. I can't remember if it officially went passed the west limb on 06/02 or 06/08.

Edited June 24, 20241 yr by Parabolic
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5 hours ago, Patrick P.A. Geryl said:

So is it or is it not?

4 hours ago, Adohran said:

This all is it 3664 or is it not got me confused like a lot. So is it already on the earth facing disk or do we have to be a bit more patient? 

At this point it might come down to whether or not it will be included in the overall region corresponding to 3664/3697, but it seems to me like this is for the time being a smaller separate region that formed slightly ahead of it (from looking at the above EUI imagery), and that we're seeing the main part of the region come across the limb now.

5 hours ago, Patrick P.A. Geryl said:

I see old 3654 and 3664...

So is it or is it not?

No it is not. Jesterface is correct - you need to check the Carrington coordinates more carefully.

I hope that you can see from this comparison how that whole region between 300 and 360 longitude has developed over the last two rotations, and from the farside image it looks like there are a few more ARs still to show. In fact, on the latest synoptic map you can see that a new region has been indicated coming in just behing AR3723

 

8 hours ago, Patrick P.A. Geryl said:

I see old 3654 and 3664...

Old region 3654 was last seen on May 29th as maybe two native polarity spots and never made a return to the Earth-facing side.

Old region 3664 has made a return as at least 1 negative polarity spot so far and is waiting to be numbered.

16 uren geleden, Jesterface23 zei:

Old region 3654 was last seen on May 29th as maybe two native polarity spots and never made a return to the Earth-facing side.

Old region 3664 has made a return as at least 1 negative polarity spot so far and is waiting to be numbered.

 

I disagree.

Of course 3654 came back! It is everywhere on the internet... = 3713...

 

I showed you that old 3664 consisted out of 3 sunspots born on different days...

3723 has the same place... so that should be old 3664...

Region 13723 [S19E58] is the most complex region on the visible disk and could produce a major flare.

New region S9827 [S18E74] rotated into view with a large, mature spot.

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by Patrick P.A. Geryl

4 hours ago, Patrick P.A. Geryl said:

 

I disagree.

Of course 3654 came back! It is everywhere on the internet... = 3713...

 

I showed you that old 3664 consisted out of 3 sunspots born on different days...

3723 has the same place... so that should be old 3664...

Region 13723 [S19E58] is the most complex region on the visible disk and could produce a major flare.

New region S9827 [S18E74] rotated into view with a large, mature spot.

Wind your neck in a bit Pat. You posted a couple of images and asked a couple of questions. You did not definitively state that this is the returning 3664/whatever region it's now called. This is precisely the tone of your typing that winds people up and gets you into arguments.

I have to voice my frustration about this stuff constantly bleeding into the normal forum and threads. I don’t want to read nonsense, I want scientific/interesting stuff. This has no scientific value whatsoever *for me* and every day it gets harder to avoid it.

7 minutes ago, MinYoongi said:

I have to voice my frustration about this stuff constantly bleeding into the normal forum and threads. I don’t want to read nonsense, I want scientific/interesting stuff. This has no scientific value whatsoever *for me* and every day it gets harder to avoid it.

I agree with this sentiment, partly why I spoke up is because, instead of just discussing the region it became a post about taking credit for something that was blatantly untrue. We're not here for fame and recognition but to enjoy our subject with like minded individuals.

Now with that out of the way I personally would love it to be highly active because I want to see more aurora at my latitude and now it is summer it will be warm enough at night to grab a chair and sit in my garden at midnight and truly enjoy the experience 🙂

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by Gojira Prime
fixing typos

Space weather app is showing a delta config, that's pretty exciting. I can't figure out where it is in the image but I'm hoping in time I learn how to spot em

1 hour ago, Sagatha said:

Space weather app is showing a delta config, that's pretty exciting. I can't figure out where it is in the image but I'm hoping in time I learn how to spot em

If I am not completely wrong it is there. Take a look at the area that I marked and use the shifting funktion between the HMIIF and the HMIBC images and move it around the area. You'll see one penumbra (the less colored area around a dark sunspot) and inside this penumbra are darker sunspots. If these darker sunspots inside one penumbra have different polarities (blue=positive / red=negative very strange for people with electric background) its a delta. So here we are...

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Somewhere in the forum should be a thread named "show me the delta" maybe its useful for you? @MinYoongi gave me that hint one day

Edited June 25, 20241 yr by Ingolf
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