Yani Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Op 20/6/2024 om 17:38, Sunlive123 zei: New one. Remember more the AR is going to to west limb more its active ! I THINK "MARS" HAS SOME HUGE PROBLEMS … https://sdowww.lmsal.com/sdomedia/ssw/media/ssw/ssw_client/data/ssw_service_240620_070654_42698/www/EDS_FlareDetective-TriggerModule_20240620T133646-20240620T135034_AIA_171_XCEN576.0YCEN-422.4_ssw_cutout_20240620_133646_AIA_171__20240620_133645_m.mp4 Take a deep breathe. You type a lot in caps lol. This is fun for sure though long lasting flare might be the cause of slightly elevated c level 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philalethes Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Parabolic said: @Philalethes @Ingolf Surge and Jet do look the same but I think Surge pertains more to prominence/filaments (I think you mention cooler plasma) where Jets normally occur near active regions or emerging flux. Jets are also a result of magnetic reconnection and usually produce type iii radio bursts (I made a butterfly diagram for the fun of it but can't remember where I saved it so please correct me if I'm wrong). I posted a reply to this here, in case anyone else (including @Ingolf) is interested in the topic of jets and surges, so as to not get too far off topic; seemed like a fitting thread for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingolf Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 5 hours ago, Philalethes said: Yeah, I'm fairly sure at this point that "protuberance" is just a different term for prominence, which is the same thing as a filament, just viewed over the limb so that you can see it rise above the surface. I don't know of any single glossary that covers every term that is typically encountered, but this one is fairly good; however, adding to the confusion, the only mention of "jet" there is "surge", which is essentially the same but for cooler plasma (surrounding the jet) that reaches up into the chromosphere, thus also known as a "chromospheric jet", possibly due to being associated with larger jets; you'll notice that there are often several different terms for the same or closely related phenomena, usually based on descriptions of what they look like and/or how they relate to each other in various ways. As we can e.g. read here: That's another common theme in a lot of Solar activity, similar or same phenomena just on different scales. There's also a brief mention of how "surge" was the original term for any jet (possibly because the largest jets were the most noticeable), which might explain the glossary I linked to above: For more on how they are generally classified today I'd see section 2. a), "Morphology and classification", which goes over both historical classification (which might explain many ways terms are still used today) and more contemporary classification from recent observations with better tools. You added really some more confusion to the confusion. But interesting, it took me a while to read it. I learned a lot today, thank you for this and taking the time to answer in such a detail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagatha Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Assuming the current flare is coming from this region, what's so special about the limb? Why no flares at the front? Are we not worthy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnitis Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) M5.76 flare, wonder if it’s from this region or another. Edit: Looks to be from both 3712 and 3719 on the other limb of the sun. Sympathetic maybe? Edited June 20 by Saturnitis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adohran Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 I think it's this one, but also unsure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbrax Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Saturnitis said: Edit: Looks to be from 3719 on the other limb of the sun Where can we see that? I still don't have the right reflexes on the tools to use Edited June 20 by Herbrax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 3 minutes ago, Adohran said: I think it's this one, but also unsure I’m unsure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturnitis Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Herbrax said: Where can we see that? I still don't have the right reflexes on the tools to use It sometimes takes some time to update, but you can see where the flare is located wherever there’s a bright spot (shows up in shorter wavelengths best) Edited June 20 by Saturnitis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbrax Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 You were a bit faster than me haha I was refreshing SDO while checking Helioviewer x) Too bad it's not 3712/13 ! I'm cheering for this group but it's been disappointing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 It seems like both 3712 and 3719 are flairing at the same time? Leading the M5 reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesterface23 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Just now, Yani said: It seems like both 3712 and 3719 are flairing at the same time? Leading the M5 reading? Region 3712 possibly reached high C-Class or low M-Class. It is easy to tell 3719 packed the punch with an impulsive flare. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunlive123 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) 18 hours ago, Sagatha said: Assuming the current flare is coming from this region, what's so special about the limb? Why no flares at the front? Are we not worthy? You have flare of course ! And last night very long flare ! Last day there was a shock wave ! https://sdowww.lmsal.com/sdomedia/ssw/media/ssw/ssw_client/data/ssw_service_240621_025244_4428/www/EDS_FlareDetective-TriggerModule_20240620T070947-20240621T093647_AIA_211_XCEN652.8YCEN-422.4_ssw_cutout_20240620_070947_AIA_211__20240620_070945_m.mp4 We can watch the long flare here http://spaceweather.gmu.edu/seeds/dailymkmovie.php?cme=20240621&r Edited June 21 by Sunlive123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arman Sargsyan Posted Friday at 06:10 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:10 PM There is an interesting situation, we're not seeing any B-class solar flares in graphs, there is already been a month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunlive123 Posted Friday at 06:16 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:16 PM 4 minutes ago, Arman Sargsyan said: There is an interesting situation, we're not seeing any B-class solar flares in graphs, there is already been a month or so. I agree but people say im wrong ! we have cactus and soho fortunetly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arman Sargsyan Posted Friday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:19 PM 3 minutes ago, Sunlive123 said: we have cactus and soho fortunetly Didn't quite get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunlive123 Posted Friday at 06:22 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:22 PM 1 minute ago, Arman Sargsyan said: Didn't quite get that. CMEs detected by Cactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arman Sargsyan Posted Friday at 06:23 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:23 PM 1 minute ago, Sunlive123 said: CMEs detected by Cactus Is this thing relatively new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philalethes Posted Friday at 06:31 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:31 PM 5 minutes ago, Arman Sargsyan said: Is this thing relatively new? Almost exactly 20 years old these days; you can find it here (SWL also has a dedicated page to it here). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arman Sargsyan Posted Friday at 06:33 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:33 PM (edited) 2 minutes ago, Philalethes said: It is almost exactly 20 years old these days; you can find it here (SWL also has a dedicated page to it here). 22 minutes ago, Arman Sargsyan said: There is an interesting situation, we're not seeing any B-class solar flares in graphs, there is already been a month or so. Thank you. Also, is there any explanations about this. Because I didn't found any B category this and previous month Edited Friday at 06:33 PM by Arman Sargsyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcel de Bont Posted Friday at 06:38 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:38 PM 6 minuten geleden, Arman Sargsyan zei: Thank you. Also, is there any explanations about this. Because I didn't found any B category this and previous month Let's not stray too far off topic folks but during solar maximum it isn't strange to not dip in the B-class X-ray flux if there are many active sunspot regions? That is what you're asking? We also need to remember the recalibration of the GOES X-ray data so C1 today used to be like B7 or B8 last SC. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arman Sargsyan Posted Friday at 06:48 PM Share Posted Friday at 06:48 PM (edited) Thank you, and sorry in the same time😊 Edited Friday at 06:48 PM by Arman Sargsyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamateur 1953 Posted Friday at 07:49 PM Share Posted Friday at 07:49 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Arman Sargsyan said: There is an interesting situation, we're not seeing any B-class solar flares in graphs, there is already been a month or so. We only record flares that are above what might be called the baseline solar flux level. Last month our “ baseline stayed above M class levels for at least twelve full hours if I remember correctly. Reminding me of Aug 4 1972 when allegedly we were above the X level for all of Russia at that time. Pretty amazing really. And off-topic 😇 Edited Friday at 07:55 PM by hamateur 1953 Noted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justanerd Posted Sunday at 12:19 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:19 PM (edited) M 1.25 flare from this region - likely partially occluded as the region is mostly on and beyond the western limb… interestingly, ar3719 flared nearly simultaneously with ar3712. There is a triple M peak showing on the 2-hour data between 1130 and 1200 UTC Edited Sunday at 12:30 PM by Justanerd Description Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinYoongi Posted Sunday at 01:01 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:01 PM I wonder if the current flare is from this region ? 41 minutes ago, Justanerd said: M 1.25 flare from this region - likely partially occluded as the region is mostly on and beyond the western limb… interestingly, ar3719 flared nearly simultaneously with ar3712. There is a triple M peak showing on the 2-hour data between 1130 and 1200 UTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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