3 minutes ago, Cokelley said:

The reality is though, that no one can seemingly explain why were are currently in a G2 magnetic storm right now as this was not predicted or explained as of yet from what I have seen.

We got clipped by a CME, nothing else to it

4 minutes ago, Cokelley said:

The reality is though, that no one can seemingly explain why were are currently in a G2 magnetic storm right now as this was not predicted or explained as of yet from what I have seen.

Agree with you ! Nobody forecast G2 ! You Can see with Cactus that something happens in west and east limb. 

10 minutes ago, mozy said:

We got clipped by a CME, nothing else to it

That's the assumption but I am mentioning the fact that it wasn't predicted and no one knows for sure as of now what actually happened so this is still a theory about a missed CME which is definitely plausible but the point is we don't know what happened and couldn't predict it/

2 minutes ago, Cokelley said:

That's the assumption but I am mentioning the fact that it wasn't predicted and no one knows for sure as of now what actually happened so this is still a theory about a missed CME which is definitely plausible but the point is we don't know what happened and couldn't predict it/

Well, there had been a few small eruptions that we knew could've been earthdirected, but nothing was officially forecasted, there are ones that sometimes go under our radar, which means they mostly are very minor or glancing blows at most.

Edited June 7, 20241 yr by mozy

19 minutes ago, mozy said:

Well, there had been a few small eruptions that we knew could've been earthdirected, but nothing was officially forecasted, there are ones that sometimes go under our radar, which means they mostly are very minor or glancing blows at most.

19 minutes ago, mozy said:

Well, there had been a few small eruptions that we knew could've been earthdirected, but nothing was officially forecasted, there are ones that sometimes go under our radar, which means they mostly are very minor or glancing blows at most.

very minor or apparently  *moderate ;D

 

and this is my take on this subject, hopefully to clarify what is trying to be said...

6 hours ago, Gojira Prime said:

Ahh Ok, I think I get what you're trying to explain. Not necessarily literally SO2 above the Sun but a similar behaviour in regards to when a volcano is about to erupt but applied to sunspot activity instead? Would this be correct?

 

 

4 hours ago, Mangue123 said:

aerosol effect...

https://meteor.geol.iastate.edu/gcp/studentpapers/1996/atmoschem/huff.html#:~:text=It is known that during,is necessary for ozone production.

 

UV-B radiation emitted from the Sun is almost completely absorbed by the ozone layer in the stratosphere and only a very small fraction reaches below the stratosphere. A dramatic decrease in column ozone (called ozone hole) in Antarctica occurs during the months of spring (Farman et al., 1985). As a result, during these months, UV radiation penetrates into the troposphere. SO₂ is found mostly in the troposphere.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1364682607001277

 

I believe what is being said here is that when SO2 levels are elevated in Earth's Atmosphere it weakens the ozone layer which allows more radiation to penetrate from flares and make it through to the earth so the flares have a stronger effect. That does make sense because the ozone layer is here to protect us from sun radiation as far as I know.

Edited June 7, 20241 yr by Cokelley
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13 minutes ago, Cokelley said:

very minor or apparently  *moderate ;D

 

and this is my take on this subject, hopefully to clarify what is trying to be said...

I see what you're saying, but it looks "worse" than it actually was, It was a decent impact but it didn't last long at all, KP is very misleading, it can reach KP6 for a very brief moment then say we're under a G2 Storm for 3 hours.

12 minutes ago, mozy said:

I see what you're saying, but it looks "worse" than it actually was, It was a decent impact but it didn't last long at all, KP is very misleading, it can reach KP6 for a very brief moment then say we're under a G2 Storm for 3 hours.

I appreciate your insight! Does that mean we are no longer at Kp6 levels right now?

I am only going by the most up to date rating on this website, it says we are still at kp6 but I don't know how accurate that is.

49 minutes ago, Cokelley said:

Kp6

CH and filaments are EVERYWHERE nowadays ans close to New AR. 

Have a look here.

 

 

2 hours ago, Cokelley said:

I believe what is being said here is that when SO2 levels are elevated in Earth's Atmosphere it weakens the ozone layer which allows more radiation to penetrate from flares and make it through to the earth so the flares have a stronger effect. That does make sense because the ozone layer is here to protect us from sun radiation as far as I know.

That SO2 influences the ozone layer is true, but as long as there hasn't been a massive eruption in the last few months and a X50 flare hits Earth face on, I don't see how and why that matters here, to be honest.

Once again, none of the regions (or any one in the last time, barring our friend 3664) discussed here presents anything that would elevate it from the regular phenomena occuring during the time around solar maximum.

2 hours ago, Hadeweka said:

That SO2 influences the ozone layer is true, but as long as there hasn't been a massive eruption in the last few months and a X50 flare hits Earth face on, I don't see how and why that matters here, to be honest.

Once again, none of the regions (or any one in the last time, barring our friend 3664) discussed here presents anything that would elevate it from the regular phenomena occuring during the time around solar maximum.

 

5 hours ago, Cokelley said:

very minor or apparently  *moderate ;D

 

and this is my take on this subject, hopefully to clarify what is trying to be said...

 

 

I believe what is being said here is that when SO2 levels are elevated in Earth's Atmosphere it weakens the ozone layer which allows more radiation to penetrate from flares and make it through to the earth so the flares have a stronger effect. That does make sense because the ozone layer is here to protect us from sun radiation as far as I know.

Proton storms from the Sun also have a effect on the ozone layer, 

The particle storm from the 1972 solar storm led to northern hemisphere polar stratospheric ozone depletion of about 46% for several days before the atmosphere recovered it persisted for 53 days.

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1981JGR....86.1473R/abstract

4 hours ago, SpaceWeather5464 said:

 

Proton storms from the Sun also have a effect on the ozone layer, 

The particle storm from the 1972 solar storm led to northern hemisphere polar stratospheric ozone depletion of about 46% for several days before the atmosphere recovered it persisted for 53 days.

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1981JGR....86.1473R/abstract

Hi we have now a plasma storm from west limb. I sée that something happens in 3679 east limb before thé cme of west limb. So something UNUSUAL IS COMING.  I write Yesterday that ...

You Can watch the video of 3709 ( OLD 3679) here.

https://sdowww.lmsal.com/sdomedia/ssw/ssw_client/data/suvi_els/suvi_dsp2sw_171_els_xrs_m.mp4

 

 

25 minutes ago, Mangue123 said:

Hi we have now a plasma storm from west limb. I sée that something happens in 3679 east limb before thé cme of west limb. So something UNUSUAL IS COMING.  I write Yesterday that ...

You Can watch the video of 3709 ( OLD 3679) here.

https://sdowww.lmsal.com/sdomedia/ssw/ssw_client/data/suvi_els/suvi_dsp2sw_171_els_xrs_m.mp4

 

 

There's nothing unusual about anything that has happened in the last 72 hours. We've had several solar radiation storms this year already. 

49 minutes ago, Parabolic said:

There's nothing unusual about anything that has happened in the last 72 hours. We've had several solar radiation storms this year already. 

Its your belief! Ground-shaking earthquakes occur all across the globe since 1 year. 

Yes several proton storm not thé first Time...

Strange ... At the same Time in Italia !

 

 

Edited June 8, 20241 yr by Mangue123

6 minutes ago, Mangue123 said:

Its your belief! Ground-shaking earthquakes occur all across the globe since 1 year. 

Yes several proton storm not thé first Time. 

 

 

What I stated are facts, not beliefs. Solar activity contributing to seismic activity is an unproven theory and has been for years.

I'm not sure what the goal is here but I feel like you're trying to get others to join you with your prophetic exclamations about "the end of times" and other doomsday conspiracies.

1 hour ago, Mangue123 said:

Its your belief! Ground-shaking earthquakes occur all across the globe since 1 year. 

Yes several proton storm not thé first Time...

Strange ... At the same Time in Italia !

 

 

This discussion has devolved so far from the topic that either the discussion should be renamed and moved to the UPT forum or any further discussion regarding geophysical effects should be taken elsewhere. 

Suns very active today, looks like we have another flare

Edited June 8, 20241 yr by Sagatha
Oops, posted in wrong thread

On 6/7/2024 at 2:16 AM, Mangue123 said:

Ok its normal the little red riding hood ! Your comment is mocking ! But dont worry i know what is coming...

 

This forum is about a specific group of sunspots that previously traversed the sun and have begun to reappear. We deal with solid data and evidence-based facts here - not unproven theories and grandiose prophecies. Please remain on topic and refrain from discussing unproven theories and personal prophecies. Stick with the science 🤦‍♂️

Edited June 8, 20241 yr by Justanerd
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3 minutes ago, Sagatha said:

Suns very active today, looks like we have another flare

Yes its crazy but people here dont want to see REALITY ! Looks that ! Si much "white". Its snowing inside Space !

 

Have a good day

 

9 minutes ago, Mangue123 said:

but people here dont want to see REALITY !

Please don't make such assumptions about others. It's quite rude.

Don't want to be that guy but to be more accurate its actually "snowing" inside the LASCO's camera's CCD 😁

Edited June 8, 20241 yr by merdak

Can anybody say which sunspot is old 3654?

Important to make my new prediction...

since this is about a far side spot, why has there not been a replacement sent for STEREO-B. I feel like there should be plans for a new one so we can have a better forecast.

G2 new forecast next Monday

 

Edited June 8, 20241 yr by Mangue123

How CACTus has detected the radiation storm is perfect:
https://www.sidc.be/cactus/out/CME0018/CME.mp4

Edited June 8, 20241 yr by merdak

3 hours ago, merdak said:

How CACTus has detected the radiation storm is perfect:
https://www.sidc.be/cactus/out/CME0018/CME.mp4

You can watch here something happened in new 3709 before the west limb radiation storm.

Moreover you can see that East and West limb  have strong magnetism (south hemisphere) with nowadays a filament or small corona hole from East to west !