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AR 13229, X2.28 flare!


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Just now, MinYoongi said:

Looks a bit more westward, correct me if im wrong ?

Also how do you determine density in imagery available rn? I never paid much attention to that

You could see more intense plasma erupting from the last filament compared to this one.

I'd expect a glancing blow at best aswell for this one.

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1 minute ago, mozy said:

 

I'd expect a glancing blow at best aswell for this one.

So you think there's a chance its not at all headed our way? (with current data ofc)

i dont see as much dimming and i dont know if its right but could the coronal stream hole push it away and stop it from "spreading" across the disc?

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1 minute ago, Vancanneyt Sander said:

If you look at on SDO difference imagery bulk is headed northwest so most will miss us so likely like yesterday a glancing blow is possible. 

A rise in primary solar protons is expected with a chance of reaching S1.

Does the still partially ongoing SEP event from the last one make it easier for another event to reach a higher level then it could have if it was starting from quiet?

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3 minuten geleden, Sam Warfel zei:

Does the still partially ongoing SEP event from the last one make it easier for another event to reach a higher level then it could have if it was starting from quiet?

Not immediately but it’s a stronger flare and long duration so a rise can be expected as the previous is already waning. We should see a rise in low energy electrons too on EPAM soon

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15 minutes ago, mozy said:

You could see more intense plasma erupting from the last filament compared to this one.

I'd expect a glancing blow at best aswell for this one.

This one’s Type II was only 500km/s as opposed to the last one’s, what was it, 1000, 800? This is much slower anyway. 

11 minutes ago, SpaceWeather5464 said:

Long duration M6 flare.

The first powerful earth directed solar storm this solar cycle?

No, we’ve had a number so far. 

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7 minutes ago, Sam Warfel said:

This one’s Type II was only 500km/s as opposed to the last one’s, what was it, 1000, 800? This is much slower anyway. 

No, we’ve had a number so far. 

It looked pretty fast on SUVI atleast, idk if that changes anything though 😅

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does the radio emission speed say anything about the CME speed? 

3 minutes ago, Jesterface23 said:

The CME hasn't gone through all of STEREO A's coronagraph view so far to make a preliminary forecast, but I'm estimating a travel time to SA of 2-2.5 days. Arriving at Earth a few hours earlier.

 

A few hours earlier than what

14 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said:

Protons are the first thing that arrive, it’s faster than LASCO images to be available 😂 be patient as we await LASCO imagery… chances are very likely it’s an asymmetrical halo CME like yesterday ;) 

 

https://iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov/iswa_data_tree/model/heliosphere/wsa-enlil-cone/animation-cme-density/2023/02/20230225_214400_2.0_anim.tim-den.gif we have a run already but how can it be more earth directed than the last?

49 minutes ago, arjemma said:

This was another impressive CME eruption. Looks a bit weaker than the one from yesterday but still pretty good. I'm impatiently waiting for LASCO now. We have some images from STEREO already but LASCO will be more interesting.

why does it look weaker? im shit at reading stereo

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3 minuten geleden, MinYoongi zei:

does the radio emission speed say anything about the CME speed?

No, radio emission is not equal to CME speed!

 

3 minuten geleden, MinYoongi zei:

we have a run already but how can it be more earth directed than the last?

It’s a preliminary model run without even knowing the CME propagation from LASCO imagery so don’t take the model for truth! Let’s await till ALL data is available! Sure it will have an Earthbound component but let’s just await till all LLADCO imagery is there

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Just now, Jesterface23 said:

The CME arriving at Earth a few hours before arriving at STEREO A. The impact at SA being a glancing blow if it makes it through the CH at least.

what do you think earth impact is because the iswa model confuses me it shows a full hit? how can that be?

Just now, Vancanneyt Sander said:

 

 

It’s a preliminary model run without even knowing the CME propagation from LASCO imagery so don’t take the model for truth! Let’s await till ALL data is available! Sure it will have an Earthbound component but let’s just await till all LLADCO imagery is there

so you dont think it will be a full hit? based off the data thats there?
Couldnt it be they have lasco data we dont have yet

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