Isatsuki San Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 Sunspot 2835 is growing fast and is a gamma betta ?, and that point some are deltas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted June 26, 2021 Share Posted June 26, 2021 It doesn’t look like it currently has any delta spots. But it’s a nice evolution and who knows what happens in the next days… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isatsuki San Posted June 26, 2021 Author Share Posted June 26, 2021 36 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: No parece que actualmente tenga puntos delta. Pero es una buena evolución y quién sabe qué pasará en los próximos días ... It is true it will be quite interesting you know the evolution of this sun spot in the next few days it could even decompose or evolve to gamma betta, or I do not know if it is already gamma betta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 It’s beta-gamma right now and it still develops in a good direction. C-flares are very likely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 From its current development, I fell that a delta spot is in the progress of formation in the centre of the spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 It was slightly attached but now separated again so no delta spots Update: there appears to be a small delta spot growing in the penumbral area of the leading spot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) From the latest image of sunspot 2835, I think there are 3 potential delta spots. A magnetogram has been inserted for reference. Currently, this sunspot saw significant development. The area has widely expanded, with a huge pneumbra Yet, this region seemed to be quite calm since this morning, producing much fewer flares than expected. Why is this the case? Edited June 29, 2021 by abc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 The top one yes, the other two not. The left and bottom one: penumbral area is not 100% attached so it doesn’t classify as a delta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 so it is beat-gamma-delta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isatsuki San Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 26 minutes ago, abc said: so it is beat-gamma-delta? From what I understood for now, it is not a gamma delta betta yet, it is only a possible delta point that can be formed there, for me a weak delta point is going to form I still don't understand the sun, but from what it meant to me, it is not yet a delta point, it needs to develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Current classification is beta-delta. No longer beta-gamma as it’s still easy to draw a line between the two polarities. There’s one delta spot in the penumbral area of the leading spot so it’s classification is beta-delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isatsuki San Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, Vancanneyt Sander said: La clasificación actual es beta-delta. Ya no es beta-gamma, ya que sigue siendo fácil trazar una línea entre las dos polaridades. Hay un punto delta en el área penumbral del punto principal, por lo que su clasificación es beta-delta. What does it take, to be gamma-beta-delta? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 uur terug, Isatsuki San zei: What does it take, to be gamma-beta-delta? Like I said: to have beta, you need at least two spots one positive and one negative (bipolar) to have gamma classification, you can’t easily draw a line between the two polarities of the region. To have a delta, there must be a spot of the opposite polarity in the penumbral area of a spot. those are the basic rules and they are combined to get the magnetic classification of beta-gamma-delta. In the case of 2835 it’s only beta-delta because of the lack of gamma more information and combinations see the help section “the magnetic classification of sunspot regions” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher S. Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Structure and flare output are indeed related but one is not the direct result of the other. More organized simply means higher probability - no guarantees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Yet, officially, it is refarded as beta0gamma-delta according to the latest report from SWPC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) I just noticed that as well, with EKI configuration. It would be good if it started behaving like a beta-gamma-delta group. Edited June 30, 2021 by Newbie Wrong classification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 But the matter is that there are very few flares, not even C flares 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Exactly😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 54 minuten geleden, abc zei: But the matter is that there are very few flares, not even C flares That’s because it still looks too simple in magnetic structure, not enough mix to get it going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel anderson Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 Then how come it has a delta sunpsot? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 8 minuten geleden, daniel anderson zei: Then how come it has a delta sunpsot? because sunspots constantly evolve, spots come and go and with some regions delta spots can emerge. This region is beta-delta, but the magnetic complexity is still rather simple (so it's not beta-gamma-delta), so not much activity is expected as the delta spot itself is on the border of the penumbral area which isn't enough to bring the tension to a higher level and cause bigger flares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helios Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) Now beta-gamma-delta with a bunch of impulsive C flares. But still relatively small delta spots. Edited June 30, 2021 by helios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isatsuki San Posted June 30, 2021 Author Share Posted June 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, helios said: Now beta-gamma-delta with a bunch of impulsive C flares. sunspot 2835 beta-gamma-delta with 4 small delta points, launched solar flare c, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I dont think there are 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vancanneyt Sander Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Currently there are two delta spots but the region is very calm so don’t expect much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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